noelh Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 hour ago, shortCummins said: sorry chaps I finally remembered RTFM (Read The Flaming Manual) 😳 Tamiya mention that these should be clear blue, so I had the information to hand I just needed to visit my local SpecSavers! Yes they're formation lights, blue is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted July 25, 2022 Author Share Posted July 25, 2022 4 hours ago, 81-er said: I'm really looking forward to those RFI shots now, this one feels like the kind of build you see as a "how to" in a book or magazine. You should be extremely proud of this one, John! James thanks James hopefully I'll get some RFI photos taken tomorrow 2 hours ago, noelh said: Glad I was of help. The bug 🪰 smash is brilliant. Those bugs in the tropics are monstrous. Potentially your Corsair could be the definitive war weary model.🙂 thanks noelh I'm grateful of your help and interest 1 hour ago, noelh said: Yes they're formation lights, blue is correct. 👍 rgds John(shortCummins) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted July 25, 2022 Author Share Posted July 25, 2022 Mig steel acrylic color was used for a base for the various navigation and identification lights… The identification lights were painted Hobby color H92 clear orange, Tamiya X-25 clear green and X-27 clear red. Navigation lights were X-27 red and X-25 green while the top of the wing lights were X-23 clear blue. The “eagle eyed” amongst you will have noticed that I’d managed to break-off the fin antenna, so I added a “replacement” fashioned from the cut-off from the “front antenna mast”. Also added was the rear antenna mast, if I’d have added this earlier in the build I just know that I’d have broken it off!, so safer to paint until the end of the build. Both of these masts were painted with Tamiya XF-17 sea blue… …as was the pitot tube. The glass for the landing light was fixed with some PVA glue and the mask for the under fuselage canopy removed. EzLine was used for the antenna wire with a blob of superglue painted silver to represent the insulator?… …and finally the propellor nailed in place. Next I’ll be taking some RFI photos. until next time as always, any suggestions, criticisms or comments will be gratefully received. rgds John(shortCummins) 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Cracking! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted July 25, 2022 Author Share Posted July 25, 2022 Well I’m calling her done, I’ve posted some (a lot) of RFI photos here… Here’s a sneak peek I’d like to thank everyone who has help with encouragement, pointed out useful facts and interesting ideas. Thank you one and all until next time as always, any suggestions, criticisms or comments will be gratefully received. rgds John(shortCummins) 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 6 hours ago, shortCummins said: sorry chaps I finally remembered RTFM (Read The Flaming Manual) 😳 Tamiya mention that these should be clear blue, so I had the information to hand I just needed to visit my local SpecSavers! John before you paint those lights blue please take a look at this https://www.recoverycurios.com/vought-f4u-corsair-wwii-green-wingtip-recognition-light Harold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 On 06/07/2022 at 16:58, shortCummins said: Chipping was applied to both the edges, front and rear of the propellor blades Too late I know, (unless prop is loose) but props don't wear like that. At some point on here it was pointed out by a pilot, that blade wear occurs on the rear face. Once you know, and look, you find examples... To do with airflow, but the back will often scour back to bare from the tip, while the front is overall in good shape. Marine Corsairs on crushed coral strips, very abrasive, useful as it shows what I mean about the front vs back wear same plane front - some wear on leading edge back, note the lower blade is still black at root, but totally scoured to bare metal at tip. Look at lower blade, bisected by the wing. Different plane, again, the lower blade being in shadow clearly shows the remaining black True for any metal blade in an abrasive environment.. Hope of interest, even if too late to be of use? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted July 25, 2022 Author Share Posted July 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, Troy Smith said: Too late I know, (unless prop is loose) but props don't wear like that. At some point on here it was pointed out by a pilot, that blade wear occurs on the rear face. Once you know, and look, you find examples... To do with airflow, but the back will often scour back to bare from the tip, while the front is overall in good shape. Marine Corsairs on crushed coral strips, very abrasive, useful as it shows what I mean about the front vs back wear same plane front - some wear on leading edge back, note the lower blade is still black at root, but totally scoured to bare metal at tip. Look at lower blade, bisected by the wing. Different plane, again, the lower blade being in shadow clearly shows the remaining black True for any metal blade in an abrasive environment.. Hope of interest, even if too late to be of use? thanks Troy noelh pointed out my error with the propellor here's my amended version... rgds John(shortCummins) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted July 25, 2022 Author Share Posted July 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, Sergeant said: John before you paint those lights blue please take a look at this https://www.recoverycurios.com/vought-f4u-corsair-wwii-green-wingtip-recognition-light Harold thanks Harold I've already painted them blue however if/when I build another Corsair I'll get it right 👍 rgds John(shortCummins) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelh Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, shortCummins said: thanks Harold I've already painted them blue however if/when I build another Corsair I'll get it right 👍 rgds John(shortCummins) Actually no, the wingtip lights are navigation lights. Red for port, green for starboard. But the blue lights on top of the wingare in fact formation lights which are blue. That correct. In fact I think the blue formation lights are unique to the Corsair. I could be wrong but I've never come across them on other aeroplanes. Have a look at Cookebnbachers RFI on Boyingtons Corsair. Blue lights. Edited July 25, 2022 by noelh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 minute ago, noelh said: Actually no, the wingtip lights are navigation lights. Red for port, green for starboard. But the blue lights are in fact formation lights which are blue. That correct. In fact I think the blue formation lights are unique to the Corsair. I was just reading about the information lights on Corsair that were used to send semaphore or code to identify the aircraft. Harold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelh Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sergeant said: I was just reading about the information lights on Corsair that were used to send semaphore or code to identify the aircraft. Harold They are the lights under the wing. The recognition lights. Red, green, yellow. Different to the navigation lights, red on the left, green on the right. Different from the blue formation lights on the wing. Edited July 25, 2022 by noelh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 What an absolute cracker John, great work. Chris 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelh Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Interestingly when unlit the green navigation light often looks blue but green when lit. I'm not saying it was the case with the Corsair but on some modern aeroplanes it's true. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortCummins Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share Posted July 26, 2022 9 hours ago, noelh said: Actually no, the wingtip lights are navigation lights. Red for port, green for starboard. But the blue lights on top of the wingare in fact formation lights which are blue. That correct. In fact I think the blue formation lights are unique to the Corsair. I could be wrong but I've never come across them on other aeroplanes. Have a look at Cookebnbachers RFI on Boyingtons Corsair. Blue lights. thanks noelh I wonder if it's something to do with the gull wings? as the wing is "pointed up" these lights could help pilots with a better positional sense? 9 hours ago, Sergeant said: I was just reading about the information lights on Corsair that were used to send semaphore or code to identify the aircraft. Harold thanks Harold early Spitfire marks had a "morse code" light, perhaps these were similar? 9 hours ago, noelh said: They are the lights under the wing. The recognition lights. Red, green, yellow. Different to the navigation lights, red on the left, green on the right. Different from the blue formation lights on the wing. the lights I was enquiring about are on the top of each wing 9 hours ago, bigbadbadge said: What an absolute cracker John, great work. Chris thanks Chris I've really enjoyed this build 👍 9 hours ago, noelh said: Interestingly when unlit the green navigation light often looks blue but green when lit. I'm not saying it was the case with the Corsair but on some modern aeroplanes it's true. I read somewhere that the "glass" was often blue as the bulbs had a yellow hue they would appear green when "on" rgds John(shortCummins) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 I also find that Tamiya instructions often quote blue for the green navigation light. A suggestion for you. It shouldn’t be too difficult to remove the yellow from the rear of the prop blades while they are in situ. John. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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