some mini AFVs are escaped from its box ...

[Old pro]

17 hours ago, Yg Models said:

i let the T-54B (Takom) out, even it has finer details, i still feel Revell ver's T-55A is a better model kit. 

 

Apart from the Revell turret being totally the wrong shape and it being slightly too short (not so noticeable when building an NVA or Czech tank ) it’s a good source for wheels and tracks and a few other bits. Unfortunately there is no good kit of the T 55 yet! The closest is the Hobby Master die cast although that has horrible wheels and so so tracks (which is where Revell comes in handy)

[Yg Models]

17 hours ago, Old pro said:

Revell turret being totally the wrong shape

 

same as ZTZ-99A, thx for explain in hardcore fans perspective. 

[Old pro]

6 hours ago, Yg Models said:

 

same as ZTZ-99A, thx for explain in hardcore fans perspective. 

Yeah some things just bug me, the Revell T 55 could have been such a nice kit, if only they had taken the time to do the turret properly, same as the Trumpeter and border models ZTZ 99A. It’s not like these companies don’t have the real thing to look at! Revell also annoy me in their kits, WW2 kits are fairly decent (as far as I’m aware) modern stuff, apart from the Bundeswehr vehicles and the Challenger all the others have major issues.

 Maybe I need to get a life

[Yg Models]

On 9/19/2022 at 3:44 PM, Old pro said:

all the others have major issues

 

does 1/35 series better?

 

even bandai keeps finding way to reuse the molding, this kinds of small size model company must maximize the use of mold. otherwise, would like Games Workshop which has finest (?) molding, but its price is terribly high...

[sardaukar]

Miniart do some fantastic T-54/55 series tanks in 1/35 many with full interiors, Takom also do a few.

[Old pro]

21 hours ago, Yg Models said:

 

does 1/35 series better?

 

even bandai keeps finding way to reuse the molding, this kinds of small size model company must maximize the use of mold. otherwise, would like Games Workshop which has finest (?) molding, but its price is terribly high...

I have to say yes! Although Revell and Trumpeter are not small companies, also they take more care with their 1/35 stuff as there is a lot more competition. I realise that the 1/35 and 1/72 scale markets are quite different and held to a different standard but there does seem to be a case of “that will do” for the small scale market. It’s not about reusing old moulds, once they have been made of course they have to be used. I don’t expect a highly detailed model to the standards of 1/35 scale, although it can be done, Zvezda , Takom being some of the best, but poor shape and detail! I can forgive a lot of errors or missing details if the basic shape is something I can work with. A case in point the Revell Warrior great detail but really messed up in shape, it still looks like a warrior when built but correcting it requires so much change it becomes practically a scratch build, the Trumpeter Warrior on the other hand has less detail but is a better shape, instead of having to chop and change the vehicle you can just concentrate on the detail you want to add!

moaning over

[sardaukar]

1 hour ago, Old pro said:

there does seem to be a case of “that will do” for the small scale market.

 

Don't get me started on the trumpeter T-62, very disappointing.

[Yg Models]

1 hour ago, Old pro said:

has less detail but is a better shape

 

it is good if they mould the AFV in correct shape. For diehard fans, shape is high priority since they have lots of info, technical drawings, books, or visit actual AFV in museum. On the other hand, for casual modeler like me, there is no AFV museum in HK (i never see a real AFV through my eye), i don't collect & study those drawing, info, photos before build. My first priority is having a brand willing to publish AFV in 1/72, so i could enjoy painting interested AFV, then add it to my mini collection.

 

anyway, it is good to know the shape of T-55 (revell) is wrong.

[Yg Models]

22 minutes ago, sardaukar said:

trumpeter T-62, very disappointing

 

 another poor shaped AFV? i can't figure the difference in b/w T-55, T-54, T-62 etc from the images in internet. 

 

T-62 is in my wishing list too, but is the upgrade ver: T-62MV, which has "Kontakt-1" (ERA) on hull & turret. I interested in those ERA blocks  

Edited September 21, 2022 by Yg Models

[sardaukar]

3 minutes ago, Yg Models said:

 

 another poor shaped AFV? i can't figure the difference in b/w T-55, T-54, T-62 etc from the images in internet. 

 

T-62 is in my wishing list too, but is the updated ver: T-62MV, which has "Kontakt-1" (ERA) on hull & turret. I interested in those ERA blocks  

The glaring problem on the t-62 by trumpeter is the lack of turret overhang and instead they have just moulded a solid piece of plastic straight down to the fenders. as far as I know the rest of the model is ok. what I find really annoying is that trumpeter show the 1/35 version on the box for their 1/72 T-62 kits so they are aware of it and I'd argue that is false advertising.

[Yg Models]

1 hour ago, sardaukar said:

trumpeter show the 1/35 version on the box for their 1/72 T-62 kits 

 

this is really bad advertising .

this only happens on T-62, or all the 1/72 boxart that using AFV kit image are 1/35 ver?

[sardaukar]

46 minutes ago, Yg Models said:

 

this is really bad advertising .

this only happens on T-62, or all the 1/72 boxart that using AFV kit image are 1/35 ver?

I believe it happens with others tanks too although I don't know which.

Id check small details that aren't common in their other 1/72 kits.

[Old pro]

19 hours ago, sardaukar said:

I believe it happens with others tanks too although I don't know which.

Id check small details that aren't common in their other 1/72 kits.

This seems to be a trend on all the Trumpeter later 1/72 scale models, having a picture of a 1/35 model on the box is definitely false advertising, however once you know it shouldn’t catch you out anymore.

regarding the T 62, yeah the lack of turret overhang is annoying and a pain to correct, but at least the basic shape is correct ( turret is a bit iffy but passable) more annoying for me is the fact that on the later models they have moulded the wading covers on the engine deck shut, which means building a whole new deck! At the moment though it is the only option unless you can get hold of one of the old ACE kits.

[Old pro]

22 hours ago, Yg Models said:

 

it is good if they mould the AFV in correct shape. For diehard fans, shape is high priority since they have lots of info, technical drawings, books, or visit actual AFV in museum. On the other hand, for casual modeler like me, there is no AFV museum in HK (i never see a real AFV through my eye), i don't collect & study those drawing, info, photos before build. My first priority is having a brand willing to publish AFV in 1/72, so i could enjoy painting interested AFV, then add it to my mini collection.

 

anyway, it is good to know the shape of T-55 (revell) is wrong.

There is no right or wrong when it comes to building, each of us should build for their own pleasure and if you enjoy what you are doing, more power to you. I learnt from when I first got interested in tanks to spot the difference by shape rather than detail, of course as I learned more I got to spot the details between different Mks but the general shape would be “ that’s a T 54/55” and then down to the details for a T 54, 55, 55A, etc etc.

i used to focus too much on getting all the details right, whilst I enjoyed the challenge, I wasn’t actually building and finishing very much! These days I have scaled it back to getting the shape and the major details right as I love the working out how to do it, but am not so keen on the painting and finishing part! 
my criticism is not about how or why you build, you should do what you enjoy and not be pressured into doing it a certain way, it is a criticism of the kits themselves, I feel there are not enough (if any) reviews of kits and their problems especially now that Revell kit prices have shot up! I originally bought the T 55 hoping it would be good, although I found it not acceptable, I did get some nice spares and lovely wheels from it, but the price was low enough, not something that I would necessarily do now they cost more ( although I did by the KMT 5 version to enhance my own T 55s ) The Italeri T 55 is another poor kit, you can probably make a good one by banging the kits together, the Italeri one is deficient where the Revell one is best and vice versa

[sardaukar]

45 minutes ago, Old pro said:

There is no right or wrong when it comes to building, each of us should build for their own pleasure and if you enjoy what you are doing, more power to you. I learnt from when I first got interested in tanks to spot the difference by shape rather than detail, of course as I learned more I got to spot the details between different Mks but the general shape would be “ that’s a T 54/55” and then down to the details for a T 54, 55, 55A, etc etc.

i used to focus too much on getting all the details right, whilst I enjoyed the challenge, I wasn’t actually building and finishing very much! These days I have scaled it back to getting the shape and the major details right as I love the working out how to do it, but am not so keen on the painting and finishing part! 
my criticism is not about how or why you build, you should do what you enjoy and not be pressured into doing it a certain way, it is a criticism of the kits themselves, I feel there are not enough (if any) reviews of kits and their problems especially now that Revell kit prices have shot up! I originally bought the T 55 hoping it would be good, although I found it not acceptable, I did get some nice spares and lovely wheels from it, but the price was low enough, not something that I would necessarily do now they cost more ( although I did by the KMT 5 version to enhance my own T 55s ) The Italeri T 55 is another poor kit, you can probably make a good one by banging the kits together, the Italeri one is deficient where the Revell one is best and vice versa

 

I like the T-54/55 series and have every plastic kit produced, kitbashing does seem to be the way to get an accurate one but turrets are an issue. There is a lot of aftermarket for these too except some of the after market uses the faulty kits as masters . @Old pro what do you think of the ammo T-54B in terms of accuracy?

[Yg Models]

after railway gun, i let last three AFV: large truck cum trailers join the long waiting list. 

so i have space for next batch of AFV now 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 22, 2022 by Yg Models

[Old pro]

7 hours ago, sardaukar said:

 

I like the T-54/55 series and have every plastic kit produced, kitbashing does seem to be the way to get an accurate one but turrets are an issue. There is a lot of aftermarket for these too except some of the after market uses the faulty kits as masters . @Old pro what do you think of the ammo T-54B in terms of accuracy?

In terms of accuracy the ammo/ Takom T 54 is very good and needs little adding to it, the choice of smoke drums on the rear and not fuel drums is odd, whilst not incorrect for a T 54B the fuel drums would have been more likely but easily sourced elsewhere. The hull with slight modifications is also good for the T 55 and Chinese type 59( along with the turret of course)

Edited September 22, 2022 by Old pro
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[Old pro]

6 hours ago, sardaukar said:

 

I like the T-54/55 series and have every plastic kit produced, kitbashing does seem to be the way to get an accurate one but turrets are an issue. There is a lot of aftermarket for these too except some of the after market uses the faulty kits 

Yeah that can be a problem, depending on the manufacturer, Tankograd were the best turrets you could get hold of before the fiasco in Ukraine, ARMORY were going to produce a nice T 64 replacement turret but it never saw the light of day (although their ZSU 23 4 is now available) seems to be a deficit in modern corrections as ww2 and German every conceivable modification seems to be available. On the way used to be a good source of information but lately only for WW2 and German stuff, and just lip service to anything else.

[sardaukar]

8 hours ago, Yg Models said:

after railway gun, i let last three AFV: large truck cum trailers join the long waiting list. 

so i have space for next batch of AFV now 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some very nice models here, that patriot launcher looks cool, I have the tank transporter version, i need to get building

 

[Yg Models]

after got the Flak 36, i get Flak 38 on yesterday. however, it is even bigger than Flak36, can't mount on middle-east truck as i assume.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also, i bought a resin Tiger-I -w crews, its quality is much better than i wish.

 

 

 

[sardaukar]

3 hours ago, Yg Models said:

can't mount on middle-east truck as i assume.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if someone did although you might need something bigger than a Toyota pickup. There is some interesting ww2 equipment made it into the Arab/Israeli wars. The Germans themselves during WW2 mounted flak guns on almost any vehicle big enough, halftracks, trucks, panzers etc. I'm sure I saw a flak gun mounted on top of a Maus recently.

[Yg Models]

8 hours ago, sardaukar said:

I saw a flak gun mounted on top of a Maus recently

 

I saw this one, it came from a modeling youtuber i like. I began 1/72 AFV is because watched his trailers. And because this trailer, i go get my Maus too. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZwwR8bVV8o

Edited September 26, 2022 by Yg Models

[Old pro]

5 hours ago, Yg Models said:

 

I saw this one, it came from a modeling youtuber i like. I began 1/72 AFV is because watched his trailers. And because this trailer, i go get my Maus too. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZwwR8bVV8o

Everybody should build a what if or fantasy vehicle and let your imagination run wild, it’s really quite relaxing

[sardaukar]

5 hours ago, Yg Models said:

 

I saw this one, it came from a modeling youtuber i like. I began 1/72 AFV is because watched his trailers. And because this trailer, i go get my Maus too. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZwwR8bVV8o

ah yes plasmo, that's where I saw it. totally realistic  can't wait to see your take.

[Yg Models]

thx old Pro, sardaukar

 

 

 

cut the parts of Cute Tiger-I & an Infantry. now need to grout the gaps 

 

any good color scheme for tiger-I or tank crews? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 27, 2022 by Yg Models