Adam Poultney Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) Just an idea I had for a GB, would anyone be interested? Any vehicle with four or more engines is allowed. It's effectively a heavy aircraft GB, but with a little room for other multi-engine subjects if they exist, or smaller four engine types. Some ideas for things that would be allowed: B47, Concorde, Nimrod, 747, Handley Page Halifax, Lancaster, A340, Il76, B17, B52, BAe146, Victor, Fw200, Vulcan, 707, C130 UPDATE 20/04/2022 Looks like there is enough interest to get this running for a bunfight slot. For now I've assumed everyone participating in the thread is interested in participating. 1 (Host). @Adam Poultney 2 (Co-Host). N/a - anyone want to volunteer? 3. @stever219 4. 5. @Marklo 6. @zebra 7. @Rob G 8. @Railfan87 9. @JOCKNEY 10. @vppelt68 11. @The Plastic Surgeon 12. @CliffB Edited April 20, 2022 by Adam Poultney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever219 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Saturn V, Saturn 1b, QE2, HMS King George V, KMS Tirpitz, Bismarck, RMS Mauretania, An 235, Short SC.1.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Poultney Posted April 14, 2022 Author Share Posted April 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, stever219 said: Saturn V, Saturn 1b, I didn't even think about rockets, that's a good idea! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 There was an M3 Medium tank variant that had one engine made from five Chrysler straight six car engine blocks on a common crankshaft. It was called the Chrysler Multibank and had five distributors, carbs etc. It was of course, still only one engine but I mention it because I thought it was interesting. Imagine setting the timing up on that monster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever219 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Bertie Psmith said: There was an M3 Medium tank variant that had one engine made from five Chrysler straight six car engine blocks on a common crankshaft. It was called the Chrysler Multibank and had five distributors, carbs etc. It was of course, still only one engine but I mention it because I thought it was interesting. Imagine setting the timing up on that monster! A bit different to the He177 engine arrangement; 2 DB605 engines driving each prop through a common gearbox. Would the '177 qualify for this GB if it runs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Poultney Posted April 14, 2022 Author Share Posted April 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, stever219 said: A bit different to the He177 engine arrangement; 2 DB605 engines driving each prop through a common gearbox. Would the '177 qualify for this GB if it runs? Not sure, it's kind of both 2 and 4 engines. We can decide in due course based on general consensus as more sign up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) Don’t forget the B36 and B52 and if the Grief is in then the Manchester qualifies too, as it had twin RR buzzard twins. I’d quite cheerfully go for one of those if I can snag a nice 1/144 scale kit. Now that I think of it I do have a 747/space shuttle in the stash and I’ve been threatening to build a 1/144th scale Zeppelin Stakken for a long time ( btw I have a Contrail 1/72 vac form Zepplin Stakken in the stash that I’m never going to build if anyone interested) Edited April 14, 2022 by Marklo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Count me in. I’ve got loads of options that would suit this one. Some of the ones Adam has already listed plus Super Guppy, Stratocruiser, Beverley, YC-14, Breguet 941, B-58, Convair 880 and 990, Hastings, C-141, Bison, Tu-95, 114 and 126. So I think I’ll be able to find something to build! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Poultney Posted April 15, 2022 Author Share Posted April 15, 2022 16 minutes ago, zebra said: Beverley, ... Hastings are these the Mikromir kits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Sorry Marklo, but the Manchester doesn't qualify - the Vulture engine was essentially 4 Peregrine cylinder blocks on a common crankshaft/crankcase, so it's a proper X24 engine rather than 2 joined-up-but-separate V12s - the common crankshaft makes it a single engine, wherever many of its bits came from. The Heinkel 177/DB606 or 610 combination (and by inference the M3A4/Chrysler Multibank) should be allowed - engines with separate crankshafts, joined to a common, shared transfer gearbox (sorry Bertie, the Multibank engines were complete engines, with separate crankshafts. They had gears on the crank ends that mated to a shared transfer gearbox - Wikipedia has an excellent photo of the insides). Then there's the case of the Napier Sabre H-24, as used in the Hawker Typhoon/Tempest - 2 cranks, but designed from the outset as a single unit, with no separate, external transfer gearbox. Is that one to be counted as 2 engines based on crankshaft count (no, IMO). Or the Napier Deltic, with 3 cranks... (yeah, Napier did some weird things with pistons). For what it's worth, here's my take on it - can the assembled monstrosity be broken down into recognisable, usable component engines (with allowances made for the realities of connecting the things together). In the case of the Vulture, no. There's no separate crankshaft for each V section. For the DB606/610 and Multibank, yes, because each section is identifiable as a complete, stand alone engine and if you take it off and add a sump, could be made to run as a discrete entity. Sabre, of course, is again a no, as there's no identifiable single crank engine in the package. (OK, technically, there is, but that's drawing a very long bow, given that the whole thing was designed en bloc, as was the Deltic). HTH, instead of muddying things up. Don't you love working out the details of what's allowed in a group build? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railfan87 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 What about an articulated steam locomotive? Mallets, the Beyer-Garratts and a wealth of locomotives were made with four engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 13 hours ago, Rob G said: Sorry Marklo, but the Manchester doesn't qualify Not too worried as multiengined things aren’t really my thing except of course for some of the German R planes so still definitely in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 13 hours ago, Rob G said: Don't you love working out the details of what's allowed in a group build? Surprisingly, yes. But it has gotten me into trouble in the past, but nothing that couldn’t be fixed. On balance I like it when a GB prompts me to build some I wouldn’t normally attempt and this one qualifies nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 On 4/15/2022 at 10:30 AM, Adam Poultney said: are these the Mikromir kits? Yes. I'd love to build a Hastings in 1/72 and I'd love to have room for a Beverley in 1/72 but I'll make do with both in 1/144! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Blohm and Voss BV222, 6 engines so in with a couple to spare Cheers Pat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railfan87 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Heinkel He 111 Zwilling? Five engines! Basically two He 111s joined together with an extra engine to make a heavy glider tug. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Yes, please. V-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Can we put you down for an Me323 V-P ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, JOCKNEY said: Can we put you down for an Me323 V-P ? Nope, mrs. V-P would never let me build and display anything that large! But maybe an FW 200? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 I think I've got a Contrail Ju390 in the stash, I'll have to find your address, I'll just put Mrs V-P on the parcel it will be a nice surprise when she opens it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplasticsurgeon Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 I'm in, and immediately thought of this: It's always listed as 4 engines, and seeing a pair at Cosford, it looks like you could remove each individually. And a few other 4 engine subjects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffB Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 I'd be in too - probably something in 1/200 (I'm running out of shelf space!). @Adam Poultney are you starting a list? Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Poultney Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 I will be putting together a list soon, there seems to be sufficient interest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 12 hours ago, Adam Poultney said: I will be putting together a list soon, there seems to be sufficient interest You should take me off it Adam, I was only chattering. I'm not interested, just making suggestions for other people. Didn't some aircraft carriers have 4 Olympus engines???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 31 minutes ago, Bertie Psmith said: Didn't some aircraft carriers have 4 Olympus engines???? I don't know but CVN 65 a.k.a USS Enterprise had 8 nuclear reactors. Isn't that more than four? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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