DeepSea Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Hi all, Does anyone have any good suggestions for books/sites/etc which are good modelling references for the LSK (East German Airforce)? I've a Mig-21 I'd like to build as an East German bird but thinking of others too. Many thanks in advance David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieGolf2009 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 (edited) Hi David! See if these websites are of any help to you: https://www.key.aero/article/east-german-mig-21s-cold-war-fishbeds http://www.topedge.com/panels/aircraft/sites/kraft/nva.htm https://acesflyinghigh.wordpress.com/2015/11/17/combat-jets-of-the-east-german-air-force-1970-to-1987-the-modernization/ https://partisan1943.tumblr.com/archive Edited April 12, 2022 by CharlieGolf2009 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepSea Posted April 12, 2022 Author Share Posted April 12, 2022 Many thanks @CharlieGolf2009 - most helpful indeed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelldoc Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Here some websites: https://www.mig-21-online.de/ http://www.mig-21.de/ddruebersicht.htm Pictures: https://www.google.com/search?q=Mig-21+NVA&sxsrf=APq-WBvweyoEo2Eh5OCYbQPWVFCwIxaUAQ:1649792978189&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjGwKvjpY_3AhUWhP0HHdZUCXk4ChD8BSgBegQIEBAD&biw=1906&bih=944&dpr=1 modelldoc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiampieroSilvestri Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 (edited) Take a look at the "DHS-Die Flugzeuge der Luftstreitkräfte der Volksarmee" series of books.There is a book about the Mig-21F-13,about the Mig-21PF/SPS/SPS-K and a volume about the Mig-21U. Saluti Giampiero Edited April 12, 2022 by GiampieroSilvestri 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Airlife did a book called East German Air Force: Final Flightline by C J Van Gent (1993). Full colour throughout. Covers all types down to the little An-14. A lot of those Airlife colour series can be picked up for next to nothing nowadays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 This is quite a nice little volume as well: https://www.scalemates.com/books/final-touchdown-concorde-color-series-4003-hans-nijhuis--120149 Cheers, Andre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vultures1 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Hook said: This is quite a nice little volume as well: https://www.scalemates.com/books/final-touchdown-concorde-color-series-4003-hans-nijhuis--120149 I agree with Andre, the Final Touchdown book has some good colour photographs of LSK MiG-21s of various marks, as well as a wide range of other types of course 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasa Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Hello. Since this topic is for LSK DDR references I would like to know if there were some standards in the dimensions of LSK aircrafts insignias and number digits? Were they dependent from aircraft type or the time era? I want to order the printing of universal decals containing LSK markings and number digits in 1/72 scale and before doing this I've measured several LSK decals from different kits I have in my stash, but it appeared that the decals from different manufacturers even for the common aircraft type (MiG-21 for example) have different dimensions. And the dimensions for various aircraft types are also different: for example insingias from Eduard's MiG-15 kit are 8.3 mm/side, those from KP's Su-17M4 kit are 6.1 mm, R.V.Aircraft's MiG-23 insignias are 7.8 mm. The dimensions of digits are also different: for example Begemot's red digits for MiG-21 are 6.0x1.0 mm, the same digits from Hi-Decal Line are 7.2x1.0 mm. So I can't understand what dimensions should I take. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiampieroSilvestri Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) I can't help you with the dimensions but LSK/NVA fighter aircraft had red numbers while recconnaissance,bomber,training and transport aircraft had black numbers. Saluti Giampiero Edited April 7, 2023 by GiampieroSilvestri 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelldoc Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 There is only a reference in the book, Flugzeuge der DDR Volume 1 for the first MiG-15 in 1956. The insignia was stripped square with 56 to 57 cm on all sides. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Emblem_of_aircraft_of_NVA_(East_Germany).svg#/media/Datei:Emblem_of_aircraft_NVA_(East_Germany)_before_1959.svg modelldoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_tonto Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 On 4/7/2023 at 5:01 PM, GiampieroSilvestri said: I can't help you with the dimensions but LSK/NVA fighter aircraft had red numbers while recconnaissance,bomber,training and transport aircraft had black numbers. Saluti Giampiero I would recommend these NVA decals by TOM Modelbau. https://www.scalemates.com/kits/tom-modellbau-72001-nva-luftstreitkraefte-1956-1990--191401 They come with a useful A4 sheet explaining the history of the LSK markings and how they were applied over time. Some of them were actually decals. 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempestfan Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 On 4/12/2022 at 10:22 PM, GiampieroSilvestri said: Take a look at the "DHS-Die Flugzeuge der Luftstreitkräfte der Volksarmee" series of books.There is a book about the Mig-21F-13,about the Mig-21PF/SPS/SPS-K and a volume about the Mig-21U. Saluti Giampiero Some of the DHS books have silly price tags, however some at least are still available from the German distributor, even though oop for quite some time (same applies to F40s). There were also two small books by Wilfried Kopenhagen published by transpress in the mid/late 80s, "Flugzeuge und Hubschrauber der NVA". I can't vouch for their quality (and being free from propaganda/misinformation), but they used to be cheap as chips - in Germany, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepSea Posted April 11, 2023 Author Share Posted April 11, 2023 37 minutes ago, old_tonto said: I would recommend these NVA decals by TOM Modelbau. https://www.scalemates.com/kits/tom-modellbau-72001-nva-luftstreitkraefte-1956-1990--191401 They come with a useful A4 sheet explaining the history of the LSK markings and how they were applied over time. Some of them were actually decals. 😀 Do you know of anywhere that still has these? Cheers David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempestfan Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 44 minutes ago, DeepSea said: Do you know of anywhere that still has these? Cheers David Looks like this is the sheet in updated form; no idea about the instructions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 I have the TOM decal sheet but never checked their instructions sheet... actually I'm not even sure my sheet has any instruction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepSea Posted April 11, 2023 Author Share Posted April 11, 2023 7 hours ago, tempestfan said: Looks like this is the sheet in updated form; no idea about the instructions. Thank you - although irritatingly I'm after the 1/32 which appears to be sold out 😕 David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasa Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 On 11/04/2023 at 14:14, old_tonto said: I would recommend these NVA decals by TOM Modelbau. https://www.scalemates.com/kits/tom-modellbau-72001-nva-luftstreitkraefte-1956-1990--191401 They come with a useful A4 sheet explaining the history of the LSK markings and how they were applied over time. Some of them were actually decals. 😀 I've seen these decals, but unfortunately they are not available in my country and on Hannants (where I can buy via some mates). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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