Beaufort Upper Colour?

[dogsbody]

While doing a search through my decal stash, this Kits-World sheet was at the top of the stack.

It says that the top colours could be Dark Green or Slate Grey and Dark Sea Grey.

Would this be right? I was thinking of Extra Dark Sea Grey with Dark Slate Grey. 

Do I have to order some more paint to get the proper colours?

 

 

 

 

 

Chris

[Troy Smith]

28 minutes ago, dogsbody said:

I was thinking of Extra Dark Sea Grey with Dark Slate Grey. 

That was certainly used

Bristol Beaufort close-up,  1942. by Etienne du Plessis, on Flickr

 

It would depend on use, so TSS for Coastal Command.

 

If there are decals, I think this is a rather fetching mix, TSS with I presume Azure Blue?

Bristol Beaufort,    Malta by Etienne du Plessis, on Flickr

 

Other will  know more

 

 

 

 

[dogsbody]

I was going to do one from No. 32 OTU at Patricia Bay, British Columbia. In some info that was posted here on the forum, @Carl V says that of the 12 Beauforts sent there, the first 12 Beauforts delivered to Canada, six were in temperate land and six in temperate sea colour schemes. Unfortunately, there are no colour photos of these and I ones that Carl sent me are B&W, making it difficult to see the difference.

 

Those photos can be seen here:

 

 

 

 

 

Chris

[brewerjerry]

Hi

    I was thinking of using the colour photos of the bolingbrokes in the lassie film shot at pat bay as a guideline for my 1:48 beaufort when i get back to building it

  cheers

     jerry 

 

https://www.impdb.org/index.php?title=Son_of_Lassie

Edited April 7, 2022 by brewerjerry

[Troy Smith]

40 minutes ago, dogsbody said:

Unfortunately, there are no colour photos of these and I ones that Carl sent me are B&W, making it difficult to see the difference.

do two then,  one in TLS, one in TSS...

 

about time you did some modelling  

[lasermonkey]

Just be aware that Kits World has a well-deserved reputation for shoddy research and inaccuracies. You're right to question their colour call outs.

[Graham Boak]

I agree with the above, except that the underside in the Malta Photo looks too intense a blue for Azure Blue, so more likely to be Light Mediterranean Blue.   But even the colour photos vary.

[dogsbody]

So, TSS uppers with Sky unders.

 

 

 

Chris

[brewerjerry]

Hi

    not sure if you know this link for coastal colours 

 

http://www.hrmtech.com/SIG/coastal_cam.asp

 

  cheers

    jerry 

[Brian]

After through the above, I’m terrified by the authors’ dedication and now shall retire with my jar of Jamesons’ finest.  Good luck with your build.

[593jones]

On 4/7/2022 at 9:32 AM, Graham Boak said:

I agree with the above, except that the underside in the Malta Photo looks too intense a blue for Azure Blue, so more likely to be Light Mediterranean Blue.   But even the colour photos vary.

 

I'm not sure how accurate their research is, but Xtradecal sheet X72319 has two Mediterranean based aircraft, one Malta based 217 Squadron in EDS Grey/Dark Slate Grey/Azure Blue and one, unit unknown Mediterranean based, in Dark Mediterranean Blue/Light Mediterranean Blue/Azure Blue.

[Graham Boak]

That scheme has been mentioned before, on other types too, but lacks evidence.  There is the 55 Sq Blenheim drawn by Bob Jones for an early IPMS UK magazine shown in this scheme, and often repeated.  It is more than likely that this information came from "Mac" McKennaugh, a long-term stalwart of IPMS (and ex-Tempest pilot|) who served on the unit.  I have always been under the impression (not sure where from) that this was the squadron hack, rather than necessarily representative of all their aircraft.  I've rather hoped to find confirmation of its use on Beauforts (and Baltimores) bur so far that's just wishful thinking.  On the other hand, Light Mediterranean Blue has long been known to have been used as an underside colour in the ME.

[dogsbody]

I'm more interested in what are the colours on this:

 

 

 

 

The Mediterranean area of operations is of no interest to me, as regards the Beaufort.

 

This is:

 

 

 

 

 

Chris

[brewerjerry]

4 hours ago, dogsbody said:

 

 

 

Chris

 

Hi

     This one is interesting 1943,  but still early type roundel and fin flash

  It would be nice to view the AM 78 movement card at the RAFM to see when it was shipped to canada, it might give an idea as to the colours

 

   cheers

      Jerry 

Edited April 8, 2022 by brewerjerry

[dogsbody]

The first 11 are mentioned here, at the bottom of the page: http://www.rwrwalker.ca/RCAF_L5332_N1045_detailed.html

 

Some other serials are here, but the site doesn't have details on them: http://www.rwrwalker.ca/list_by_type.html#B

 

 

 

Chris

[brewerjerry]

On 4/8/2022 at 3:04 PM, dogsbody said:

The first 11 are mentioned here, at the bottom of the page: http://www.rwrwalker.ca/RCAF_L5332_N1045_detailed.html

 

Some other serials are here, but the site doesn't have details on them: http://www.rwrwalker.ca/list_by_type.html#B

 

 

 

Chris

Hi

     pity my idea doesn''t help then from the details 

   cheers

      jerry 

[Geoffrey Sinclair]

Probably of no help, From RCAF Aircraft and RAF Delivery Logs, if the Delivery Logs are to believed the aircraft shipped to Canada had been in storage since being built.
L9967 TOC RAF 29 May 1940, 5 MU 12 Jun 40, 47 MU 20 Jun 41, Canada 12 July 1941, TOS RCAF 7 August 1941
L9968 TOC RAF 29 May 1940, 5 MU 13 Jun 40, 47 MU 21 Jun 41, Canada 12 July 1941, TOS RCAF 7 August 1941
N1005 TOC RAF 5 June 1940, 6 MU 18 Jun 40, 47 MU 29 Jun 41, Canada 12 July 1941, TOS RCAF 7 August 1941
N1006 TOC RAF 29 May 1940, 6 MU 15 Jun 40, 47 MU 9 Jul 41, Canada date unreadable, TOS RCAF 21 August 1941
N1007 TOC RAF 5 June 1940, 6 MU 16 Jun 40, 47 MU 23 Jun 41, Canada 12? July 1941, TOS RCAF 7 August 1941
N1021 TOC RAF 14 June 1940, 5 MU 23 Jun 40, 47 MU 20 Jun 41, Canada 12 July 1941, TOS RCAF 7 August 1941
N1026 TOC RAF 14 June 1940, 5 MU 26 Jun 40, 47 MU 2 Aug 41, Canada 3 September 1941, TOS RCAF 24 September 1941
N1027 TOC RAF 14 June 1940, 5 MU ? Jun 40, 47 MU 21 Jul 41, Canada 3 September 1941, TOS RCAF 24 September 1941
N1029 TOC RAF 20 June 1940, 5 MU 29 Jun 40, 47 MU 20 Jun 41, Canada 12 July 1941, TOS RCAF 7 August 1941
N1030 TOC RAF 20 June 1940, 6 MU 17 Jun 40, 47 MU 23 Jun 41, Canada 12 July 1941, TOS RCAF 7 August 1941
N1045 TOC RAF 28 June 1940, 6 MU 6 Jul 40, 47 MU 5 Jul 41, Canada 12? July 1941, TOS RCAF 21 August 1941
N1078 TOC RAF 28 June 1940, 6 MU 4? Jul 40, 47 MU 21 Jun 41, Canada 12 July 1941, TOS RCAF 7 August 1941
N1107 TOC RAF 7 August 1940, 6 MU 8 Aug 40, 47 MU 26 Jun 41, Canada 29 July 1941, TOS RCAF 16 September 1941
W6473 TOC RAF 10 October 1940, 5 MU 27 Oct 40, 47 MU 20 Jun 41, Canada 12 July 1941, TOS RCAF 7 August 1941
W6484 TOC RAF 26 October 1940, 5 MU 20 Nov 40, 47 MU 2 Jul 41, Canada 12 July 1941, TOS RCAF 7 August 1941