Kevin Aris Posted April 2, 2022 Author Share Posted April 2, 2022 Day 13 centre section double floor frames good evening everyone still ploughing through these, hope to complete the tomorrow, then its time to glue them in and get the centre line to be a lot tidier, im happy with the progress, 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Aris Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 thanks everyone for comments and like, very much appreciated Day 14 double bottom floors are in its just a task now to remove each pair and adjust them to fit nicely the gaps are where the three sections overlap, i have about 10 to put in when they are joined up 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 You must be glad that's out of the way! Once you have all this glued it must be a very rigid construction I gather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Good progress. I hope you haven't go to dismantle too much for gluing... Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Aris Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 13 hours ago, JeroenS said: You must be glad that's out of the way! Once you have all this glued it must be a very rigid construction I gather. it becomes very rigid when the tank tops are on, i can vouch for the stiffness after the January disaster i was building up the stern section for a group build, and fell on it, pretty well a months work destroyed, but the keel survived quite well, it all went to landfill possibly the worst moment of my model making career 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Aris Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Courageous said: Good progress. I hope you haven't go to dismantle too much for gluing... Stuart just to remove the floor frames one by one and put straight back in Edited April 5, 2022 by Kevin Aris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 9 hours ago, Kevin Aris said: possibly the worst moment of my model making career That looks absolutely disastrous, I feel your pain! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Aris Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 14 hours ago, JeroenS said: That looks absolutely disastrous, I feel your pain! took about 6 weeks to get over it, i went straight back into another build, and instantly lost interest in it, so i finished the stagecoach off instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Aris Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 AL 1/10 1847 stagecoach 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Aris Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 good evening everyone thank you for comments and likes day 15 fwd /aft tank top logitudinals day 16 fixing middle section double floor frames removing batches of 10 of the floor frames, trimming if necessary to fit over the bottom plate longitudinals and gluing into position 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Aris Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 good evening everyone thank you so much for comments and likes day 17 double floor frames are in and fixed, well about 95% rest will be done when joining the sections also started forward section tank tops here is a fwd section from the last time i attempted this kit, it wont be used as the colours will be altered, i will salvage the lighting and begone 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 That's going to be BIG. I think your green cutting mat is a bit redundant at the moment. Stuart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Aris Posted April 10, 2022 Author Share Posted April 10, 2022 Good evening everyone day 21 fwd section tank tops installed lower forepeak is made up and ready for installation fwd bulkhead is made up and installed making up the first Bulkhead bulkhead, scoring the card on different sids, allows the shape to be obtained midships top tanks going on forming the box girders to keep the fwd bulkhead in place and now its getting to big for the work bench 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Aris Posted April 11, 2022 Author Share Posted April 11, 2022 good evening everyone thank you for comments and likes day 22 painting the fwd section grey continue tank top plates midships section after taking the advice offered grey is the new red box girders for the fwd section being made up in my head i want to show different parts opened up, so in the following few phots, i have where i am up to in putting the tank top plates down the ones not covered in the last few shots will be left open, these open frames may be pained red this is how it looks tonight 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Nice progress! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Aris Posted April 12, 2022 Author Share Posted April 12, 2022 good evening everyone thank you for comments and likes Day 23 number 1 lower cargo hold im getting used to the grey now, after looking at it for ages Cubic capacity of number i lower hold is 85,500 cubic feet i had never heard of a tank top ceiling. its a extra layer of steel to cushion the deck from loading damage box birders fitted frames and longitudinals going in 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony007 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Nice work Kevin, brings back a few pleasant(unpleasant) memories. I used to work on these in real life at the shipyard where they were built. The model is very true to the original, but you missed out the 3 run fillet welds at the bottom of the bulkheads.(only kidding) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Aris Posted April 14, 2022 Author Share Posted April 14, 2022 17 hours ago, tony007 said: Nice work Kevin, brings back a few pleasant(unpleasant) memories. I used to work on these in real life at the shipyard where they were built. The model is very true to the original, but you missed out the 3 run fillet welds at the bottom of the bulkheads.(only kidding) do you have internal photos as i will be adding detail inside at some time im not into rivet counting, but seriously if you see something that could be added, please let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony007 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) Sorry Kevin I did not take any pictures, working on them was enough. When we were 1st year apprentices, part of our training was to build a cardboard double bottom section. It showed how strong the structure was, our instructor got the biggest lad in the class to stand on it. There was no buckling at all! I think this model may have its origins there. I remember the Fire service wanting diagrams etc of the ships structure, so they knew what they were facing in a emergency. I think it was one of the architects who designed this model to help them. Most of the important structure is in the model, but it also is a simplified version of what was actually there. A example is where the frames(longitudinal stiffeners) in the double bottom sections (and most other parts of the ship) go through non watertight bulkheads, they never touched the bulkhead. On both sides of the frame there was a small gusset plate welded between the frame and bulkhead. This allowed a bit of movement in the ships structure, otherwise structural failure happened. That`s all for today`s shipbuilding lesson. Edited April 14, 2022 by tony007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Aris Posted April 14, 2022 Author Share Posted April 14, 2022 5 hours ago, tony007 said: Sorry Kevin I did not take any pictures, working on them was enough. When we were 1st year apprentices, part of our training was to build a cardboard double bottom section. It showed how strong the structure was, our instructor got the biggest lad in the class to stand on it. There was no buckling at all! I think this model may have its origins there. I remember the Fire service wanting diagrams etc of the ships structure, so they knew what they were facing in a emergency. I think it was one of the architects who designed this model to help them. Most of the important structure is in the model, but it also is a simplified version of what was actually there. A example is where the frames(longitudinal stiffeners) in the double bottom sections (and most other parts of the ship) go through non watertight bulkheads, they never touched the bulkhead. On both sides of the frame there was a small gusset plate welded between the frame and bulkhead. This allowed a bit of movement in the ships structure, otherwise structural failure happened. That`s all for today`s shipbuilding lesson. Thank Tony yes a lot of that information is part of my opening post, esp about the emergency services, and a forward section being produced, and from there the whole ship being produced as a kit i have rec'd posts from people on facebook groups that were not aware of anything inside a hull, other than an engine (mind boggles) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Aris Posted April 14, 2022 Author Share Posted April 14, 2022 Good evening everyone day 25 midships and stern joined over the last couple days perhaps put in about 4 to 6 hours work on the build, but very little to show for it the vets trip and visitors yesterday limited getting into to it that much and the visitors we had yesterday were the first in six month and we had a brilliant time, possibly first time i have laughed this year, so today was bit of a downer, anyway i have joined the midships section to the stern as there is some over lap in the double bottom frames, and as you can see, it has become well, big, hoping over this Easter weekend to get most of the tank tops put on (with the exception of the exposed viewing area) 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adm Lord De Univers Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Utterly fascinating to watch this unfold, and a tremendous job you are doing too. I just wish they produced smaller versions! David 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 And this was a simple model for firemen! I've never seen a card model of any size under construction before. It's certainly a complex building method. I notice that almost all of the pieces are warped to some extent and wonder whether this gets straightened out as the build progresses. I should have to patience to wait and see but that may be quite some time yet. My condolences on the loss of the first one, and congratulations on having the fortitude to start over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Aris Posted April 16, 2022 Author Share Posted April 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Bertie Psmith said: And this was a simple model for firemen! I've never seen a card model of any size under construction before. It's certainly a complex building method. I notice that almost all of the pieces are warped to some extent and wonder whether this gets straightened out as the build progresses. I should have to patience to wait and see but that may be quite some time yet. My condolences on the loss of the first one, and congratulations on having the fortitude to start over. thank you for your comment, yes a piece of card that has multitude notches will take on any shape it likes, but pulls out when everything else is in place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Aris Posted April 16, 2022 Author Share Posted April 16, 2022 good evening everyone day 27 deck plating middle and stern lol im getting paranoid about the wavy lines, even though i am expecting them at this stage, but it has been brought up in several forums, this will be fine when the bulkhead is pulled over to the right and then it is all covered over out into the sunshine, to big for the wheelie bin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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