robgizlu Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Steve - just caught up with this - the single phrase that comes to mind is.........."I am not worthy " Lovely detail and precision - Wow! Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5 Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 cheers rob . got the lower starboard ratlines done . 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Steve - I often "zone out" with historic builds such as this but your hul finish andpaintwork really lifts this and the rigging is tour de force I Salute you Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5 Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share Posted July 31, 2022 thankyou rob , all the lower ratlines are done , yippee . 😃 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5 Posted August 4, 2022 Author Share Posted August 4, 2022 finally got all the stays and backstays on . then the old klutz in me had to appear , swung the model around , hit my hand off came the rudder , shheeezzz . 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 hour ago, steve5 said: then the old klutz in me had to appear , swung the model around , hit my hand off came the rudder , shheeezzz . Ah, bad luck! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitriy1967 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Shipwreck! 😲 I hope the damage is not critical and they will be repaired quickly at the port. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Hey, why does it not say Friar Tuck on the transom? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5 Posted August 5, 2022 Author Share Posted August 5, 2022 it's not perfect , but at least it's back together , I can't really answer that bertie , I think I just forgot what I called this thread . 🙄 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-boat 55 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Just caught up on this one, she's looking great Steve, well done on dealing with the damage, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5 Posted August 7, 2022 Author Share Posted August 7, 2022 got the fore top mast yard and sail on , as well the mock up for the flying jib . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 It’s looking unbelievably complex. I throw a salute in the direction of your rigging! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Gidday Steve, you're doing a superb job of the rigging. I think I'll stick to WW1 & WW2 ships. Regards, Jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitriy1967 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Even from looking at the rigging, I'm scared, and to do such a thing! I admire your work! Dmitriy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5 Posted August 8, 2022 Author Share Posted August 8, 2022 thanks guys for the nice words , the rigging was made a lot easier by a book i bought on kindle . rigging period ship models by lennarth peterssen . just page after page of full size drawings . http://www.amazon.com.au/Rigging-Period-Ships-Models-Step-ebook/dp/B00KC3LJQE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 4 hours ago, steve5 said: thanks guys for the nice words , the rigging was made a lot easier by a book i bought on kindle . rigging period ship models by lennarth peterssen . just page after page of full size drawings . http://www.amazon.com.au/Rigging-Period-Ships-Models-Step-ebook/dp/B00KC3LJQE Thats encouraging. I have that book, if not your skills and expertise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5 Posted August 10, 2022 Author Share Posted August 10, 2022 got the main top sail , yard and sail on . all the other sails will be in the furled position . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Fighting sails! Apparently they would furl the lower sails weather permitting, when going into action to improve visibility and reduce the number of taught ropes exposed to damage. I only read about that yesterday. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 7 hours ago, Bertie McBoatface said: Fighting sails! Apparently they would furl the lower sails weather permitting, when going into action to improve visibility and reduce the number of taught ropes exposed to damage. Gidday, as I understand it the lower sails (the courses) were vulnerable to catching fire from flaming wads from the guns while the upper sails such as the topgallants would place a lot of strain on the masts and remaining rigging if some of the rigging were shot away (as Bertie suggests above) or the masts damaged. Another consideration is the available crew to work the sails due to the large numbers required to man the guns. Quite often I believe they fought under topsails alone. Or so I've read, and I stress that I'm no expert. Regards, Jeff. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, ArnoldAmbrose said: Gidday, as I understand it the lower sails (the courses) were vulnerable to catching fire from flaming wads from the guns while the upper sails such as the topgallants would place a lot of strain on the masts and remaining rigging if some of the rigging were shot away (as Bertie suggests above) or the masts damaged. Another consideration is the available crew to work the sails due to the large numbers required to man the guns. Quite often I believe they fought under topsails alone. Or so I've read, and I stress that I'm no expert. Regards, Jeff. That’s a fuller explanation than mine. Thanks Jeff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5 Posted August 12, 2022 Author Share Posted August 12, 2022 (edited) I did not know that guy's , I can't change the topmast sails , so i'll have to do the top gallant sails in full glory now , not a lot up there to hide anyway . thanks for the information . Edited August 12, 2022 by steve5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Gidday Steve, I'd imagine topgallants would be fine while approaching an enemy under light winds. For example, while I don't know the details (a long time since I've read a book on it) HMS Victory took hours to come up to the French/Spanish line at Trafalgar. The last stages she was under fire while unable to reply herself. So I imagine any ship in that situation would want to close the range asap before clewing up the upper sails and engaging. As Nelson was quoted - "Always go straight at 'em". HTH. Regards, Jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 I have learned today that another reason for hoisting sails high up the masts was to steady the roll of the ship in order to improve gunnery accuracy, and in rough seas to enable the use of the lower gun deck which might otherwise flood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 5 hours ago, Bertie McBoatface said: I have learned today that another reason for hoisting sails high up the masts was to steady the roll of the ship in order to improve gunnery accuracy, and in rough seas to enable the use of the lower gun deck which might otherwise flood. Gidday, I didn't know of that one but yeah the lower gun decks could flood in heavy weather. I think yardarm to yardarm gunnery didn't need to be accurate, you could hardly miss. Plus you often couldn't see your enemy because of the gun smoke. Regards, Jeff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 49 minutes ago, ArnoldAmbrose said: yardarm to yardarm gunnery You had to get that close first. Many actions took place over much longer ranges. Iwa reading today about a single ship action in a storm The Indefatigable (38) defeated the Droits de l'Homme (74) on 13-14 January 1797 because the French ship lost its topmasts and began to roll so heavily that it had to close its lower gun ports, reducing its firepower. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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