Reparty Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) I know before starting this is likely incredibly dumb to those with more knowledge than I currently have, but how practical a project would it be to combine a Lancaster fuselage (with relevant extensions and rhinoplasty) with a Shackleton wing/engine combo to produce a Lincoln? But as the topic timestamp will show, I'm currently suffering from insomnia and have a head full of similar crackers ideas. Edited March 17, 2022 by Reparty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Womby Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 IIRC, there was an article many years ago in Airfix Magazine January 1972, and maybe a later one in SAM, on how to do that conversion. Hopefully a member here will have a copy. I may have it but I am away from home. I vaguely remember the wingtips need extending and so do the wing roots. Of course, the fuselage needs lengthening and a new nose David 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Womby Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I found a copy online here: https://archive.org/details/Airfix_Magazine_1972-01 David 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reparty Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 Thank you David. That's a proper old school approach in the Airfix mag. Pretty much as I expected. Greatly appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The wooksta V2.0 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Only snag is the Shattipuss has Griffon rather than the Merlin 85 of the Lincoln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reparty Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 I haven't done the full archaeological dig yet, but I'm presuming there won't be an insurmountable difference with the annular cowlings. Though I haven't yet compared the Griffon parts to the Airfix mag drawings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, The wooksta V2.0 said: Only snag is the Shattipuss has Griffon rather than the Merlin 85 of the Lincoln. the annular radiator style cowlings are very similar though, certainly for 1:72nd work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelldoc Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I had used the Paragon Set and the old Lancaster kit for these conversion: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21603181@N08/6751364305/in/photolist-bhAvoR modelldoc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Certainly similar, but not good enough for 1/72m work. That's a pretty condescending comment. meant to put the poor 1/72 modellers in their place, but only displays ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossm Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 You can get Merlin 85s here https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284698770370 Look at his other items for the full range including a Manchester conversion. Quality isn't up to CMK standards but good enough to work with. He used to sell directly on BM maybe as @smudger or @Smudger2? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 14 hours ago, 71chally said: the annular radiator style cowlings are very similar though, certainly for 1:72nd work. Not really, unless you are not concerned with accuracy. A Spitfire is very similar to a Spiteful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, rossm said: including a Manchester conversion. Quality isn't up to CMK standards Indeed! I have some of his stuff. It's kinda rough and ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Ed Russell said: Not really, unless you are not concerned with accuracy. A Spitfire is very similar to a Spiteful. The cowlings look a lot more similar to each other than a Spiteful does to a Spitfire to my eyes. The Shack cowling front details need modifying ideally but I would say the overall shapes are a good basis for a DIY Lincoln conversion. Edited March 18, 2022 by 71chally 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 14 hours ago, Graham Boak said: Certainly similar, but not good enough for 1/72m work. That's a pretty condescending comment. meant to put the poor 1/72 modellers in their place, but only displays ignorance. I am a 1:72 modeller and I would be happy using the cowlings for a basis for conversion. I'm surprised by your post to be honest, our modelling skills and expectations maybe very different from each other, I would admit mine are very basic, but I'm not an ignorant nor a condescending person and I am saddened that I have come across that way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Womby Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 The ancient Airfix Mag conversion does illustrate changes to the Shackleton engines. David 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 I seem to recall that Blackbird did a very extensive Lincoln conversion set, as well as a Manchester conversion set in 1/72; I have the Manchester set, and it is very nice. I believe they are planning to re-release both in the future. Might be worth looking into. You can go to their website to see what both look like. I regret I never got the Lincoln conversion when it was available- I hope it does get re-released! Mike https://www.blackbirdmodels.co.uk/avro-lincoln-conversion-x2872x29-1492-p.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 On 17/03/2022 at 11:42, Reparty said: That's a proper old school approach in the Airfix mag. Indeed. Having read the article, and having a load of old Airfix mags, I suspect if you took a photo of one of the builds in them they would often look quite crude by modern standards. Also, the scan seems to be missing page 272, which look to be a lot of conversion details. Unless you happen to have an old Lanc and a Frog(or more likely a Russian moulding) laying around already , as well lot of spare time and patience, a dedicated conversion like the Blackbird one mentioned will make a better model with a lot less work, in particular the work involved in making the new nose turret and nose transparencies, and the 4 blade props would be a lot of careful work. Doable yes, and if done as a work in progress would be a very popular thread I think. It is possible you could take from both old school in combining old kits, and up to date by getting some parts 3-D printed, but I'd also look into a dedicated conversion as well. Perhaps worth noting the Contrail did a Vacform kit,https://www.scalemates.com/kits/contrail-av-roe-lincoln--158639 build https://modelingmadness.com/scott/korean/lincoln.htm which I think is still available via Sanger, https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/CON730?result-token=ZYGMy Flightpath also do a conversion https://www.djparkins.com/product.php?productid=18023 HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 6:15 AM, David Womby said: IIRC, there was an article many years ago in Airfix Magazine January 1972, and maybe a later one in SAM, on how to do that conversion. Hopefully a member here will have a copy. I may have it but I am away from home. I vaguely remember the wingtips need extending and so do the wing roots. Of course, the fuselage needs lengthening and a new nose David First modelling mag I ever bought 😮 I didn't start buying Airfix Magazine regularly until it went to A4 format but I did have one or two earlier ones. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Hi apologies slightly off topiic I like tbe old airfix mag conversions, majority of my builds are " models " , not " scale replicas " so in my case the airfix articles are great for those rare expensive kit subjects don't think my old eyesight or hobby budget would let me do scale replicas anyway cheers jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reparty Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 21 hours ago, Troy Smith said: Flightpath also do a conversion https://www.djparkins.com/product.php?productid=18023 HTH Thanks Troy. I wasn't aware of the Flightpath conversion, and it looks like a good option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberraman Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, Reparty said: Thanks Troy. I wasn't aware of the Flightpath conversion, and it looks like a good option. It is a good option and was the only game in town when I built mine a decade or so ago as shown beneath. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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