Jered Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Hello all, I haven't made any planes in a while but I was thinking about doing a mig-29 in 1:48. There are a huge amount of kits available and I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on kits and or books about their different iterations and markings? Cheers, Jered. P.s. I'm sure you can guess why I have an interest in making one, but I'm not trying to begin a discussion about politics or current events! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seawinder Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 GWH for sure. AFAIK there are only two other options, Monogram and Academy, both of which have been boxed under different brands. In terms of accuracy and refinement, GWH is in another league altogether. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffreyK Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 GWH. From what I've read, the only real issue is the fit of the engine nacelles (but I haven't built mine yet though). Detail and accuracy wise, leagues above Monogram and Academy (reboxed by Eduard for instance). J 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 From what I've read GWH indeed. You also influenced by current events? I have a GWH Flanker-B winging its way to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 17 hours ago, Jered said: Hello all, I haven't made any planes in a while but I was thinking about doing a mig-29 in 1:48. There are a huge amount of kits available and I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on kits and or books about their different iterations and markings? Cheers, Jered. P.s. I'm sure you can guess why I have an interest in making one, but I'm not trying to begin a discussion about politics or current events! actually there is not a huge amount of different kits available in 1/48, as stated already above. if you want a big spine C model 9.13 , your only oob option is GWH anyways. (Ukraine only uses C models I think for several years) try to get this boxing: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/great-wall-hobby-l4813-mig-29-fulcrum-c-9-13--1345219 or this one https://www.scalemates.com/kits/great-wall-hobby-s4814-mig-29-9-13-fulcrum-c--1293714 you need to source decals/ stencils though as well!!! https://www.scalemates.com/kits/great-wall-hobby-s4811-korean-peoples-army-air-force--1138746 if you want a UB model 9.51 (two seater) you are limited to Academy. https://www.scalemates.com/kits/academy-12266-mig-29ub-fulcrum-b--1286841 if cost is an issues and you are not going to invest into aftermarket anyways, I would still go for GWH. if cost is a real issue, try o source a cheep, second hand Academy kit. (only A 9.12 and UB 9.51 available though) happy modelling! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Like others have said the GWH kit is the best for a single seater aircraft. A few of used it in the MiG-29 GB a few years ago. Have a look here:- https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/forum/595-mikoyan-mig-29-stgb/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 @exdraken you sure about the spine? Google throws up only short spine aircraft when I google Ukrainian Mig-29. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bozothenutter said: @exdraken you sure about the spine? Google throws up only short spine aircraft when I google Ukrainian Mig-29. rather sure... labeled as Fulcum A, but is a 9.13 https://www.planespotters.net/photo/546065/41-blue-ukrainian-air-force-mikoyan-gurevich-mig-29-fulcrum-a https://www.airliners.net/photo/Ukraine-Air-Force/Mikoyan-Gurevich-MiG-29-9-13/2554310/L https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8150555 https://cdn.airplane-pictures.net/images/uploaded-images/2016/5/14/718891.jpg https://www.motorbiscuit.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/MiG-1024x576.png do not get confused with the 9.19 really big spine variants, or even the M2/MiG-35 verions for comparison Poland, Slovakia and Bulgaria only have 9.12 aircraft. Serbia has both for some time cheers, Werner 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 16 minutes ago, exdraken said: rather sure... labeled as Fulcum A, but is a 9.13 https://www.planespotters.net/photo/546065/41-blue-ukrainian-air-force-mikoyan-gurevich-mig-29-fulcrum-a https://www.airliners.net/photo/Ukraine-Air-Force/Mikoyan-Gurevich-MiG-29-9-13/2554310/L https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8150555 https://cdn.airplane-pictures.net/images/uploaded-images/2016/5/14/718891.jpg https://www.motorbiscuit.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/MiG-1024x576.png do not get confused with the 9.19 really big spine variants, or even the M2/MiG-35 verions for comparison Poland, Slovakia and Bulgaria only have 9.12 aircraft. Serbia has both for some time cheers, Werner Ahhh, then it must be the 9.19 i used as reference... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jered Posted March 2, 2022 Author Share Posted March 2, 2022 4 hours ago, exdraken said: actually there is not a huge amount of different kits available in 1/48, as stated already above. if you want a big spine C model 9.13 , your only oob option is GWH anyways. (Ukraine only uses C models I think for several years) try to get this boxing: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/great-wall-hobby-l4813-mig-29-fulcrum-c-9-13--1345219 or this one https://www.scalemates.com/kits/great-wall-hobby-s4814-mig-29-9-13-fulcrum-c--1293714 you need to source decals/ stencils though as well!!! https://www.scalemates.com/kits/great-wall-hobby-s4811-korean-peoples-army-air-force--1138746 if you want a UB model 9.51 (two seater) you are limited to Academy. https://www.scalemates.com/kits/academy-12266-mig-29ub-fulcrum-b--1286841 if cost is an issues and you are not going to invest into aftermarket anyways, I would still go for GWH. if cost is a real issue, try o source a cheep, second hand Academy kit. (only A 9.12 and UB 9.51 available though) happy modelling! Amazing! Thank you, you lot are so knowledgeable. I think I'm going to go with the kit you suggested with this livery: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseSeal Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Jered said: I think I'm going to go with the kit you suggested with this livery: Hey, have you managed to find this kit for sale anywhere? I've been looking for a while. The only one I can find at a reasonable price is on a Chinese eBay store and I'm not sure whether to trust it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jered Posted March 2, 2022 Author Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, LooseSeal said: Hey, have you managed to find this kit for sale anywhere? I've been looking for a while. The only one I can find at a reasonable price is on a Chinese eBay store and I'm not sure whether to trust it or not. I think I saw the same one. If it was me personally, I would trust it. I have great faith in eBay and if it's with PayPal too then you are very well protected in my opinion. I've never had issues before when ordering things from China to the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tojo72 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) The Great Wall Mig-29 was one of the best kits I ever made,and one of the most enjoyable.Very detailed,but we'll engineered. Highly recommended. Edited March 3, 2022 by Tojo72 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 9 hours ago, LooseSeal said: Hey, have you managed to find this kit for sale anywhere? I've been looking for a while. The only one I can find at a reasonable price is on a Chinese eBay store and I'm not sure whether to trust it or not. Sockelshop has some boxings left Korean and swift 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseSeal Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Bozothenutter said: Sockelshop has some boxings left Korean and swift Hmm, the 9-13 variant seems to be out of stock now. Their prices are also veeery high. The ebay option is cheaper, even if it has a longer delivery time. Unfortunately, for anyone wanting to do a Ukrainian 'digital' Fulcrum, the DN Models mask set is going to be practically impossible to find for a while. A statement on their website says they won't make any more until the war is over, out of respect. Which I find disarmingly honourable for the 21st century! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 23 hours ago, LooseSeal said: Hmm, the 9-13 variant seems to be out of stock now. Their prices are also veeery high. The ebay option is cheaper, even if it has a longer delivery time. Unfortunately, for anyone wanting to do a Ukrainian 'digital' Fulcrum, the DN Models mask set is going to be practically impossible to find for a while. A statement on their website says they won't make any more until the war is over, out of respect. Which I find disarmingly honourable for the 21st century! I found myself a pricely rather acceptable GWH North Korean 9.13 model .... not that I would like to build it in those colors either..... I also have a Neomega 9.13 conversion somewhere for the Academy kit.... in case someone would prefer this one... but your are right, DN model masks seem to be impossible to get. Maybe they were out of production already before,,, some info here on the Ukrainian MU updates: https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2018-08-21/ukraine-upgrades-mig-29-fleet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 On 3/3/2022 at 7:48 AM, Bozothenutter said: Korean Regarding the North Korean boxing, attention it does not come with R-73 IR missiles, only 4 very nice R-60 and 2 R-27 Not sure if North Korea even has R-73s... strange though for a 9.13 model Fulcrum I have to say!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/3/2022 at 9:29 AM, LooseSeal said: Hmm, the 9-13 variant seems to be out of stock now. Their prices are also veeery high. The ebay option is cheaper, even if it has a longer delivery time. Unfortunately, for anyone wanting to do a Ukrainian 'digital' Fulcrum, the DN Models mask set is going to be practically impossible to find for a while. A statement on their website says they won't make any more until the war is over, out of respect. Which I find disarmingly honourable for the 21st century! Ahem, they seem to have changed their minds.. https://dnmodels.com/product/mig-29-fulcrum-c-digital-mask-set/ https://dnmodels.com/product/ghost-of-kyiv-mig-29-fulcrum-ukrainian-digital-camo-paint-mask-set-1-32/ https://dnmodels.com/product/ghost-of-kyiv-mig-29-fulcrum-c-ukrainian-digital-camo-paint-mask-set-1-72/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Bozothenutter said: Ahem, they seem to have changed their minds.. $$$? good news nonetheless! ordered... and the Su-25 set as well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrier/ViperFan Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 8:44 AM, exdraken said: Regarding the North Korean boxing, attention it does not come with R-73 IR missiles, only 4 very nice R-60 and 2 R-27 Not sure if North Korea even has R-73s... strange though for a 9.13 model Fulcrum I have to say!! I have that kit i can have a look later on, as i planned to use it for this exact thing. But i was going to sell it as well. But if need be i have the R-73 and R-60 from Eduard i can use 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrier/ViperFan Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I just looked at the kit as promised. You get 2x R-27 and 4x R-60. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 any expert know of cockpit differences between the 9-12 and 9-13 versions? I see Quinta only do a set for the 9-12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Bozothenutter said: any expert know of cockpit differences between the 9-12 and 9-13 versions? I see Quinta only do a set for the 9-12 I looked though several Yefim Gordon book.... hard to say! not sure if there is any significant difference, I'd assume the Soviet airframes had nuclear capability that would show in the cockpit, irrespective though if 9.12 or 9.13..... then there is 9.12A and 9.12B..... for Warsow Pakt and other friendly nations..... anybody knows for sure and has photos to share?? allegedly 9.13 (ex Moldovian Fulcrums?) -control panel lower right with orange buttons https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9594994 Hungarian 9.12, with NATO mods? https://fi.pinterest.com/pin/848224911040421983/?amp_client_id=CLIENT_ID(_)&mweb_unauth_id=&simplified=true Polish 9.12 cockpit (with NATO mods?) - different radio, control panel lower right https://www.airliners.net/photo/Poland-Air-Force/Mikoyan-Gurevich-MiG-29A-9-12A/2469660/L Polish/ ex German? 9.12 cockpit (with NATO mods?) small screen in place of control panel lower right https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/7976372 again Polish IP strategic panel in form of the lower right screen https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/5976473 the rest seems identical.... but then come upgrade cockpits..... like the Serbian ones, or even more so Ukrainian BM..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 25 minutes ago, exdraken said: I looked though several Yefim Gordon book.... hard to say! not sure if there is any significant difference, I'd assume the Soviet airframes had nuclear capability that would show in the cockpit, irrespective though if 9.12 or 9.13..... then there is 9.12A and 9.12B..... for Warsow Pakt and other friendly nations..... anybody knows for sure and has photos to share?? allegedly 9.13 (ex Moldovian Fulcrums?) -control panel lower right with orange buttons https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9594994 Hungarian 9.12, with NATO mods? https://fi.pinterest.com/pin/848224911040421983/?amp_client_id=CLIENT_ID(_)&mweb_unauth_id=&simplified=true Polish 9.12 cockpit (with NATO mods?) - different radio, control panel lower right https://www.airliners.net/photo/Poland-Air-Force/Mikoyan-Gurevich-MiG-29A-9-12A/2469660/L Polish/ ex German? 9.12 cockpit (with NATO mods?) small screen in place of control panel lower right https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/7976372 again Polish IP strategic panel in form of the lower right screen https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/5976473 the rest seems identical.... but then come upgrade cockpits..... like the Serbian ones, or even more so Ukrainian BM..... Stop scaring me man! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Found something useful: http://www.mig.mariwoj.pl/mig-29-ua.htm Wondering what colour scheme stored Fulcrums would be 🤔. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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