giemme Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Just now, Terry1954 said: I understand the latest thinking is that Alclads Aqua gloss coat (the milky white stuff) is the best for varnishing these metallic finishes if you want to retain that hi shine. Absolutely. I use Molotow Chrome in the pen form, and in addition to taking a while to cure properly, it needs a gloss protective coat (Aqua Gloss is my choice too) HTH Ciao 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 20, 2022 Author Share Posted May 20, 2022 Thank you both, I have that Alclad stuff so it's good. This was only an experiment as if it looks awful I am going to take it down to plastic again if it needs it. And I have ordered a proper Molotow pen to play with. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 None more shiny! You must be happy with it now... Regards, Adrian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Crikey that’sa heck of a shine there Bill. Looking fantastic! 😍 Johnny 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 23, 2022 Author Share Posted May 23, 2022 This. This Hurricane is one of the finest Airfix models I have ever had the pleasure of putting together. I cannot remember where I bought it but as it is a subject so far out of my present modelling stream I think I picked it out at a Middle of Lidl or a centre aisle special at Aldi for just a few quid. Wherever it has raised my admiration for newer subject Airfixery I thought you'd like a last chance to see it before Giorgio @giemme gets his paintwork done. I'm not sure the Hurricane deserves being labelled dainty but it is certainly refined, top'n'bottom Superb, this time tomorrow I expect the undersides to be Sky Type S and possibly a start made on the top surfaces. I will not be hunting for markings outside the kit box either, the ones in there look fine to me. The Hind however A bundle of laughs it aint! The metal front looks horrid So much of that front looks like wobbly plastic chrome that I want to bring it all back to bare Airfix... Time to think... 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 I'm sure whatever you choose will be the right decision Bill. (It doesn't look that horrible from here) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 It looks fine on my little phone screen, but you're a lot closer than I am! Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 23, 2022 Author Share Posted May 23, 2022 Rectifying begins... I will remove as much excess chrome as I can with sandysticks and find out if I can save the model. Otherwise I might have to Hind up a Demon... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 3 hours ago, perdu said: This Hurricane is one of the finest Airfix models I have ever had the pleasure of putting together. I'd agree with that most certainly. I built one a couple of years back and it is still one of my favourites. Shame you are not happy with the chrome, as it looked pretty good from here! However, of you do remove it, you might find IPA a good way? Terry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 23, 2022 Author Share Posted May 23, 2022 Good idea now I've broken the skin of the chrome. Garage in the morning, no mo' this evening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Not sure what is not pleasing you about that cromy nose - but then again you are looking at it much closer than any of us. The Hurrricane looks neat and proper indeed - not sure how am I involved in the painting...? Keep going Ciao 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 23, 2022 Author Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, giemme said: how am I involved in the painting... Since you are the Paint Master General Giorgio, how could you not? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Dang! I thought it was all headed in the right direction too. 🙁 I thought the Hind looked great when you first posted. Did it dry funny? I have only used the chrome pens for small areas so for larger I can’t call it. Looks like you have it under control in true Bill fashion however. 😅 The hurrie looks great. I can confirm that a lot of newer Airfix kits I have built are just as lovely. My Typhoon was especially splendid as are the moths. Onwards and upwards kidda. 🧐😉 Johnny 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 11 hours ago, perdu said: Garage in the morning, no mo' this evening. It’s morning now. Good luck with the continuing dechromification Bill……. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 hour ago, The Spadgent said: I have only used the chrome pens for small areas I did try on a section of the flap on my recent Mustang build, but it was a no go. Spraying is the way for large areas. But the pen is plenty useful for many other things Ciao 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 38 minutes ago, giemme said: I did try on a section of the flap on my recent Mustang build, but it was a no go. Spraying is the way for large areas. But the pen is plenty useful for many other things Ciao I agree with Giorgio. They are not usually suitable for direct application to large surface area, but they do spray superbly, if thinned and applied correctly, which looked to me like you had done on the Hind? They also have to be sealed with some sort of varnish and the popular choice seems to be Alclad Aqua gloss. They are brilliant in their own right for very small details like bolt head and chrome trim on vehicles etc. I notice AK do a similar product ........ https://ak-interactive.com/product-category/paints/superchrome-paint/ Not tried that but I imagine it's likely same sort of stuff? Terry 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share Posted May 24, 2022 Well it looks like I ought not try to short cut the tested processes, Mr Levelling Thinner Terry? The (ink?) stuff pools as one tries to spread it across the model, leaving oddly glimmering ridges round the edge of wherever it touched first, that was why I couldn't be happy with leaving its admittedly smooth' shiny surface. Today's conundrum: How to mask the sellotape window containing panels without taking off the entire side panel? Hmm, we will see... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 42 minutes ago, perdu said: Mr Levelling Thinner Terry? Yes. Thinned at least 50% thinner, possibly 60 -70 %. I'm still experimenting. This was a test of the marker being applied direct (on granddaughters 1/32 Chevrolet, don't tell her). I used the fine nib one for this, 1mm I think: And these are all airbrushed: Airbrushing this stuff is a bit of an art in that you don't want it too low pressure and light touch, or it just goes on like silver metallic, but very thin (like Alclad), but if you up the pressure and get closer and do it quickly, it will go on like chrome. However, too close and too heavy and it will go on too thick. Tricky stuff but excellent if you can get it just right. I'm going to try it thinned with IPA next. Might try that AK stuff as well, but I'm convinced it must be same sort of stuff, so will hold off on that for now. HTH Terry 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share Posted May 24, 2022 Tell you what, I'll try IPA this morning. I have the Frog F6 mule to plaster with metal effect in the garage. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 Curse those shiny nosed Hawker devils. Tell me why I could not rationalise at this point? Comes the moment of the IPA Why oh why couldnt I rationalise here then? But no, the side panels, windows et al, all gone in a flurry of IPA. What? Jings, And crivens. Wheels and all? Doh... So much sanding to repair... Better start again Now to discover whether the Microsoft weather ticker has any foundation in real life, can't paint without garage doors open as I sit in the vestibule... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galligraphics Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 hours ago, perdu said: But no, the side panels, windows et al, all gone in a flurry of IPA. Fallen off, or dissolved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 I'm sure I don't need to remind you Bill that for top results, same rule applies re gloss (black or grey) undercoat working best for Alclad and this Molotow Chrome. Highly polished bare plastic will also work too. Terry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 27 minutes ago, Galligraphics said: Fallen off, or dissolved? Fell off because adhesive dissolved on the sellotape, admittedly not a very durable way of placing thin windows but I thought it worth a try. And to be honest I still do, when whatever happens to the paint has happened they side panels will be reglazed with sellotape. I will give what we have a little bit of a shine Terry but I am thinking, as I did before to be honest, that for a 1/72 scale model that much supershine is out of scale effect. I intend testing the IPA version on the bottom of my Lightning wings first and I hope the look I want can come out of all this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Bill, you are a brave, brave man 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 26, 2022 Author Share Posted May 26, 2022 Had to be done, I couldn't POSSIBLY (Best Kenny Everett here please narrator) have left it as was. Any road up Molotow a splash and Mr Levelling a smidgeon shaken not stirred applied at about 27psi. I think I am sticking at this. One for the massif. Brush or attempt to spray this for the first time ever? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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