Knevi Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 In his "D-Day to Berlin", while discussing German camo, Terence Wise refers to "...hundreds of camouflaged shelters...built along the roadsides...in northern France". I guessed that they were built by pioneer regiments rather than ad hoc and so there would be some unity of construction to them. I've nurtured the idea of a vignette of including such a shelter but I haven't found any definitive pics of them in use. There are lots of views of AFV's in hedgerows, woods, verges etc but can anyone point me to a description or depiction of such a shelter or has research moved on as to their existence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WYATT Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 more than likely means the shelter halves that the German infantry were issued with and more than likely vehicle crews got either issued or managed to get hold of, i think they are called zeltbahn if you google it they come up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knevi Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 36 minutes ago, WYATT said: more than likely means the shelter halves that the German infantry were issued with and more than likely vehicle crews got either issued or managed to get hold of, i think they are called zeltbahn if you google it they come up Thanks for the response. I read it as being a more permanent structure used as a turnout to accommodate vehicles and tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WYATT Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 there would be photos and I don't ever recall seeing anything like that, you would camo the vehicle using cam nets etc but cant see anything permanent being built Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knevi Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 Yes, the absence of photographic evidence is fairly compelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil1960 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Hi Knevi, I dont know is this can be useful but these fake weapons in Normandy 1944 are very interesting to me. Source: Wikimedia Commons Ciao Filippo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knevi Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Phil1960 said: Hi Knevi, I dont know is this can be useful but these fake weapons in Normandy 1944 are very interesting to me. Source: Wikimedia Commons Ciao Filippo Thanks Filippo. They do look like interesting diversions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Didn't the Germans use one man bunkers? 😡 won't let me add links... Just google "german one man bunker" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knevi Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share Posted February 18, 2022 On 17/02/2022 at 17:34, Bozothenutter said: Didn't the Germans use one man bunkers? 😡 won't let me add links... Just google "german one man bunker" Those things scare me to death. Thanks for the reply but I'm trying to track down a shelter for an AFV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsman Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I can see the idea of preparing hides for formations held in reserve further south in case they were called forward, perhaps in response to an invasion alert. I believe the Russians did something similar for vehicles moving forward for one of their offensives. But as people have said, the lack of any evidence suggests not. I can't believe that no-one in Allied forces photographed them or even made use of them and that they have never been noted in any accounts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochen Barett Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 They were camouflaged with German perfection, so nobody found them yet. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbow Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Das Abteilung said: I can see the idea of preparing hides for formations held in reserve further south in case they were called forward, perhaps in response to an invasion alert. I believe the Russians did something similar for vehicles moving forward for one of their offensives. Yup. @Das Abteilung is correct. Pretty simple to make camouflaged hides from natural materials, as long as you don't kill the trees, and have a sea of dead brown in a forrest of green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knevi Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 Thanks @Das Abteilung@Jochen Barett and @Longbow for your assistance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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