Adam Poultney Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/dassault-falcon-trijets-to-replace-rafs-vip-roled-bae-146s/147419.article I do think the Falcon is a very nice aircraft and it will look good in RAF markings. Just hope that it's not in Boring Standard Grey, or with a big UK flag over the whole tail which just sounds like a nightmare for us scale modellers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 On 2/9/2022 at 2:17 AM, Adam Poultney said: https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/dassault-falcon-trijets-to-replace-rafs-vip-roled-bae-146s/147419.article I do think the Falcon is a very nice aircraft and it will look good in RAF markings. Just hope that it's not in Boring Standard Grey, or with a big UK flag over the whole tail which just sounds like a nightmare for us scale modellers! Well it will give the French something to laugh about 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Not a bad choice I guess, but service entry already in summer? They must then be built already! Does this company have any experience operating such high profile passengers? Seems new to the MoD at least... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wafu Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 It’s ok, the MoD will pull out of the deal at the last minute and buy Cessna or Beechcraft, I’ve seen it before 😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 I have some bad news... On 2/9/2022 at 2:17 AM, Adam Poultney said: Just hope that it's not [...] a big UK flag over the whole tail which just sounds like a nightmare for us scale modellers! 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent K Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 2 hours ago, exdraken said: Not a bad choice I guess, but service entry already in summer? They must then be built already! Does this company have any experience operating such high profile passengers? Seems new to the MoD at least... They have over 30 years experience in the executive aircraft business so I'm sure they are more than competent in such operations, let's face it, carrying VIP passengers is just carrying passengers, irrespective of status, additionally I believe it will be a mix of civilian and military crews before becoming full military when military specific kit is added. I think anyway, these days, the Royal element is negligible, they tend to lease with executive jet companies as needed, this will I guess be used for more governmental and military leadership, which is what the company does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Alan P said: I have some bad news... Thats a bite isn't it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 14 minutes ago, junglierating said: Thats a bite isn't it? Same energy... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 😬 But...careful Alan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Not much room for the Prosecco. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Agent K said: . . . . . this will I guess be used for more governmental and military leadership, which is what the company does. Not much room for the Prosecco then. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard E Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 On 2/11/2022 at 6:27 AM, exdraken said: Not a bad choice I guess, but service entry already in summer? They must then be built already! According to the internet there are two airframes currently being fitted outfitted in a Dassault facility in the United States. I wonder if Welsh Models will see an opportunity to add the Falcon to their range alongside the existing Gulfstream/C-37.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcanicity Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 I wonder when the last French aircraft purchased by the British armed forces was? I'm guessing a SPAD of some variety in about 1917? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 15 hours ago, Vulcanicity said: I wonder when the last French aircraft purchased by the British armed forces was? I'm guessing a SPAD of some variety in about 1917? You mean purely French? What about Puma, Gazelle, Squirrel, Alphajet, Tucano, ? They are at least partly French, no? The other way round is more complicated.... Lynx? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnT Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 On 13/02/2022 at 09:15, Beermonster1958 said: 🤮 That's hideous! Almost as bad as that Typhoon display scheme! John I'm not so bothered about the Typhoon paint job or the "flowing flag" design per se but it looks wrong there on the Falcon. Having peered at it a while I think its the proportions between the paint job and the airframe. If the flag design was smaller and only on the tail and not painted over the upper engine it would look better - maybe?? I guess UK Aerospace dont make business jets anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Bunker Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Why, oh why don't MoD check to see if there's a 1/72 kit of the aircraft available before ordering them? 😉 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EwenS Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 On 03/04/2022 at 00:15, JohnT said: I guess UK Aerospace dont make business jets anymore British Aerospace, as it then was, sold its Corporate Jet division along with the rights to the HS125/BAe125 to Raytheon way back in Aug 1993 (yep, it really was that long ago!). They merged it with Beech Aircraft Corp the following year. Sadly the product line and the Hawker name they used for it latterly died in 2013. And it was Nov 2001 that BAe Systems Regional Aircraft produced its last aircraft, an Avro RJX (aka BAe146). I can remember the type’s first flight! Now I feel really old!😒 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWFK10 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 On 4/2/2022 at 8:08 AM, Vulcanicity said: I wonder when the last French aircraft purchased by the British armed forces was? I'm guessing a SPAD of some variety in about 1917? 1937, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 12:15 AM, exdraken said: You mean purely French? What about Puma, Gazelle, Squirrel, Alphajet, Tucano, ? They are at least partly French, no? The other way round is more complicated.... Lynx? The Squirrel is a purely French type but the status of the HT.1s can be debated, as they are owned by a civilian company. Similar situation for the Dauphins used to provide services to the FAA. However the Twin Squirrels used by 32 Squadron in the past were operated by the RAF, so they were probably the latest French types in UK military service before the Falcon. Earlier in 1961 the British Army acquired a total of 17 Alouette Mk.2. These seem to be totally forgotten by modellers and enthusiasts, even if they served for 27 years in various theatres 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 The Alpha Jets, as I understand, were operated by Qinetic not the RAF. I'm not sure how the Tucano is French, but the Jaguar was in part, and French engines have powered many types including Jetstreams. Let us mention Airbus types assembled in Toulouse? But below the level of airframes and engines, in WW2 the Halifax had Messier undercarriages, the Boulton Paul turrets were from a French original, and the Hispano cannon was French. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcanicity Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Yes I was thinking of "purely" French designs so discounting joint ventures like the Jaguar, Puma etc. I also wasn't really thinking about types like the Qinetiq Alpha Jet and the Dewoitine which didn't see " regular" Service use. I had however totally forgotten the Squirrel and the Alouette - there goes the old ingrained prejudice against helicopters! 😳 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 The Allouette II has not totally been forgotten by modellers. At the risk of blowing my own trumpet, heres one I made earlier. Back on topic, they need to get a decent designer for colour schemes and keep them away from ministers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 The latest French types would be the SAS/Army Dauphins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, Dave Fleming said: The latest French types would be the SAS/Army Dauphins Hmm arent them Under Como...so strictly still civi only with a mil s/n ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 4 hours ago, junglierating said: Hmm arent them Under Como...so strictly still civi only with a mil s/n ? The RN ones are, but the Army Dauphin N2s are purchases as far as I know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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