Faraway Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 I do seem to go from one extreme to another, bloomin' great Battleship one day to this beautiful little boat. Now, I know I keeping saying that 1/700 is too small for me, well, if I can even make a half tidy job of this, I might have to change my thinking. So, here are few piccy's to set the scene. As you can see, there are not too many parts, and it's going to be a fiddle to detail as it is so small, I've included a 5p coin to give you an idea of scale. Also, I have a choice of full hull or waterline. I've chosen waterline, which of course means I'll have to try and make a sea base. So that is what I've done first. It's sort of ok, but I don't think I can make it any better, so now is the time to stop fiddling. To do this base, I first painted the foam with green, blue and white colours, separately and as a mix. Over this I applied a coat of this. Which I dragged about and stippled to give it a bit of texture. And give the impression of wave movement. Once it was dry I applied the same colours as before, but mixed with this to give a bit of body and gloss. Once everything was dry I applied this to try to create a bow wave and propellor turbulence. What d'you reckon, has it worked ? Jon 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 @Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies as you can see from the colour call out, youR colours are the ones to use, and I will be. The only query is G20 RN25, I can’t find this on your website, but I am going to replace it with NARN29, d’you think this will do ? Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 53 minutes ago, Faraway said: @Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies as you can see from the colour call out, youR colours are the ones to use, and I will be. The only query is G20 RN25, I can’t find this on your website, but I am going to replace it with NARN29, d’you think this will do ? Jon Hi Jon, that's a bit of an anomaly really as we have a new G20. The old RN25 was very similar to Dark Slate Grey used on British aeroplanes in Temperate Sea Scheme etc. The new G20 is more greyish. NARN29 wouldn't look daft but it's a bit darker than Peter intended when he'd have written those instructions. Equally though, I suspect the guidance to use G20 will have come from CB3098(R)-1943 rather than something specific to Grey Goose, as there don't seem to be many photographs around. I reckon you have a bit of latitude here. The new G20 is NARN30, just in case you have that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said: The new G20 is NARN30, just in case you have that. Unfortunately I don’t have this colour, so unless I can get a close match with any of the acrylics I have, I’ll go with NARN29. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IJNfan Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 I have never seen AK water in action, so I will definitely be watching this with interest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickrd Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Faraway said: @Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies as you can see from the colour call out, youR colours are the ones to use, and I will be. The only query is G20 RN25, I can’t find this on your website, but I am going to replace it with NARN29, d’you think this will do ? Jon I am a bit suspicious of the colour callout. The pattern of the scheme is as per photos of SGB9 (later Grey Goose) on trials in July 1942: https://flic.kr/p/2n2CvqU This is before any of those paints existed. Also structurally the model appears to represent the boat as in 1942, with the original armament, rather than 1944. We know from Peter Scott’s writings that additional guns were fitted in mid-1943. This original paint scheme was designed by the CO (Peter Scott). I have copies of a couple of his design options for schemes for his new boat but unfortunately not of the one he ultimately used. He originally intended just two colours: white and WA Blue. Given who designed the scheme and what we see in the photos I suggest that the lightest tone ultimately used was white. The second lightest could perhaps have been WA Blue or perhaps a light grey such as 507C. I am pondering the third (the darkest tone) but it cannot have been all that dark as the draught marks are dark/black: https://flic.kr/p/2n2CGyW (On a dark paint like B15 or its predecessor B5 the draught marks would have been painted using a light-toned/white paint.) I suspect that the deck would just have been a non-slip grey. As a small craft in 1942 she should not have had a waterline boot topping. The camouflage paints would have been painted down to meet the anti-fouling (whatever colour that was) of her bottom at the waterline. Edited February 8, 2022 by dickrd 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Nice one Jon I've just taken Delivery of a Fairmile D from Atlantic and it's rather splendid. Definitley looking forwards to this. Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 1 hour ago, dickrd said: This original paint scheme was designed by the CO (Peter Scott). I have copies of a couple of his design options for schemes for his new boat but unfortunately not of the one he ultimately used. He originally intended just two colours: white and WA Blue @dickrdAre you able to let me have copies of these two designs ? Yet again, it seems to me, that once again we are reliant on hearsay and guess work and on the expertise that you have gained through much study. If only we had a way of converting the contemporary photos to colour. Life would be so much easier. But looking at the photos of her and if the dates are accurate, she had three colours, so currently I’ll go with the colours as per the instructions. If I can get the shades as accurate as possible then I’ll be happy, if the pattern isn’t quite so accurate, then can I claim ‘artistic license’ ? Once again I am in awe of your knowledge and value your insights, they are always welcome. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 Slight change of plan, with regards the colour scheme. I'm going to deviate slightly from the instructions call out and go with the colours from Jamies @Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Western Approaches 1943 - 45 and do the deck with NARN54. Here is the first white coat. There is no way I'm even going to attempt to mask the superstructure and then spray the deck, so I will be brush painting the deck and thinning the paint slightly. And I amazed how much detail is revealed by the paint. Jon 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Yup - I agree - impressive Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-boat 55 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 When you say, looking at the photos of just the resin kit the detail looks a bit soft, but as you say when you've put paint on it the detail is kinda hiding and is pretty crisp by the look of it, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 32 minutes ago, robgizlu said: Yup - I agree - impressive Rob Which ‘fairmile’ have you got. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Faraway said: Which ‘fairmile’ have you got. Jon "MTB 794" with some Micromaster weapons to sex it up Rob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 minute ago, robgizlu said: Micromaster weapons I’ve done the same with Grey Goose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 On 09/02/2022 at 20:21, robgizlu said: "MTB 794" with some Micromaster weapons to sex it up Rob Nice. I do like the look of the white bow. I’m tempted by ‘624’. Can’t beat a big sharks mouth. Jon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 12, 2022 Author Share Posted February 12, 2022 First mask to cover up the small amount of white on the hull. Next colour NARN40 And minus the mask, once this coat has hardened off I'll mask again and spray the NARN37 Then, once the hull camo is done and hardened off, I'll mask the entire hull and paint the deck. Now, this kit did not include a decals, so after a wander in web-space I found these. They are the smallest I could find and I think they will be ok, just. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I think i'd go cross-eyed , trying to do something so small jon , but your doing a great job , might have to look into that decal site too . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 12, 2022 Author Share Posted February 12, 2022 42 minutes ago, steve5 said: might have to look into that decal site too . They are actually self adhesive plastic. I got them here https://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/index.html Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 Well......................that came out ok, this is shaping up to be a pretty boat. Jon 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Jon - that looks really Fabulous!! Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWS Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 34 minutes ago, robgizlu said: Jon - that looks really Fabulous!! Rob John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Gidday Jon, I've got to agree with the others. Will the colour contours follow onto the bridgework? Regards, Jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 54 minutes ago, ArnoldAmbrose said: Gidday Jon, I've got to agree with the others. Will the colour contours follow onto the bridgework? Regards, Jeff. Jeff. From the black & white photos on the IWM site and others, the superstructure is plain white. And to be honest, there isn’t much of it anyway. Jon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 Now it is starting to look like a boat. Deck painted. Funnel, torpedo tubes, life rafts & boat, wheel, search light and search light railing fitted. Once again, close ups DO NOT do it justice. Jon D'you remember a while ago I said I thought this build might be a good grounding for building a 1/700 ship ? Well, I've ordered the Trumpeter 1/700 Bismarck. This came about because Starling Models was selling a wooden deck for this ship in their clearance sale, so one thing lead to another and I added a WEM PE set to the order. So, there we go, 1/700 build on its way. Jon 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Gidday Jon, she's superb. That bridge you've done, extremely good. Looking forward to seeing Bismarck. Of course, HMS Hood will have to follow. And neither can you ignore the Pacific - you'll have to do a USS Missouri and either IJN Yamato or Nagato. Just for starters. 😁 Regards, Jeff. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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