Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Hello everyone … So for my first Eduard MiG-21 I will be building this. I wont be using the Marlin decals but plan on building a MiG-21R so will need the roundels and stencils. Here is the Eduard Reconnaissance pod. And the obligatory sprue shots. My goal is to do it in this scheme, I presume this was something adorning the Polish MiG-21’s in the later 1980’s or 1990’s. https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8118541 Please feel free to ask questions, post comments or thoughts. I will be adding the Banner created by @Mig Eater Dennis 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Eater Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Looks yummy 🍽️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franky boy Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Nice choice Dennis. Thats one one of my favourite pieces of box art from recent years. James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Great choice Dennis, thats a really nice scheme and not one you would think of for a Mig-21. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Masters Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Looks great Dennis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 Interior color experiments so far ? I think just a shade or two lighter and should be good ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigster Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I'm confused. You discarding "Merlin" MF decals, in order to build R with a painting scheme of another MF? R's were a bit different, and all painted silver (not NMF), some pods had a sharkmouths though. -"Go to square 2, and start again" 😀 Zig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, zigster said: I'm confused. You discarding "Merlin" MF decals, in order to build R with a painting scheme of another MF? R's were a bit different, and all painted silver (not NMF), some pods had a sharkmouths though. -"Go to square 2, and start again" 😀 Zig Hello Zigster … Yes other than the roundels I am not using these decals. Personally I dislike commemorative and display aircraft. I much prefer line aircraft. My apologies as I know the camouflage is not 100% correct for an “R” but will be doing it anyways. I already have an Silver PF from a previous build and don't want another one at the moment. My only fallback option would be another air force all together, and Im only interested in Arab or Cuban aircraft. I have Arab decals but not sure if any are an “R”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Pretty good looking cockpit colour Dennis, especially as there were slight variations and then theres also weathering to take into account. Sure I have seen pictures of Egyptian R's if you want me to have a look? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, modelling minion said: Pretty good looking cockpit colour Dennis, especially as there were slight variations and then theres also weathering to take into account. Sure I have seen pictures of Egyptian R's if you want me to have a look? Sure would Craig, I can always use a fallback if my choice is going to upset people. Hopefully the Egyptian “R” wont have the giant orange panels on the aircraft. I like to have full camouflage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Here you go mate; Both are Egyptian RF's and not a whiff of orange in sight.😉 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franky boy Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Nice colour match on the paint Dennis. Is it Tamiya? James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, franky boy said: Nice colour match on the paint Dennis. Is it Tamiya? James Yes its a mix Ive come up with. MiG Interior Turquoise - X-14 = 15 + X/XF-2 = 6 + XF-5 = 1 . Though not sure how much the XF-5 green effects the mix ? Anymore than one drop of the XF-5 and it becomes too green to be considered. Edited February 14, 2022 by Corsairfoxfouruncle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigster Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Can you make an "R" from Eduard's MF? As an airframe, forget the decals. zig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) On 2/17/2022 at 1:29 AM, zigster said: Can you make an "R" from Eduard's MF? As an airframe, forget the decals. zig I believe the only visual thing missing are the wing tip sensors ? Which shouldn't be too hard to scratch build ? The Pod is Eduard A/Market and resin. The photo’s I’ve seen of the Polish aircraft have full length spines just like an MF ? And Ive read that later marks of the R were made from MF’s. But even If I don't the Rules of the build stipulate WHIF’s (What if) are allowed. So why not just consider this build as a WHIF Recon bird. However if it bothers you I will ask you to show me a bird from Poland, Egypt, East Germany, Czechoslovakia, or Iraq. I have decals for all of those nations. I would be happy to change my build if another option becomes available ? All I want is a good looking camouflage scheme ? Preferably recon but not required. Edited February 18, 2022 by Corsairfoxfouruncle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Great choice of kit Dennis! Cockpit colour looks pretty good. I found this photo which has a good Polish AF MF cockpit; https://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/844152/6715-poland-air-force-mikoyan-gurevich-mig-21mf/ Personally I think the Polish camo scheme looks really cool, but your choice! Cheers, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bianfuxia Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) 22 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: I believe the only visual thing missing are the wing tip sensors ? Which shouldn't be too hard to scratch build ? The Pod is Eduard A/Market and resin. The photo’s I’ve seen of the Polish aircraft have full length spines just like an MF ? And Ive read that later marks of the R were made from MF’s. But even If I don't the Rules of the build stipulate WHIF’s (What if) are allowed. So why not just consider this build as a WHIF Recon bird. However if it bothers you I will ask you to show me bird from Poland, Egypt, East Germany, Czechoslovakia, or Iraq. I have decals for all of those nations. I would be happy to change my build if another option becomes available ? All I want is a good looking camouflage scheme ? Preferably recon but not required. The Begemot decal sheet I have included a Camo Soviet recon version used in Afghanistan. I'm doing it if I get around to that build but as our models will never sit on the same shelf that could be an option? I know you mentioned some other users than the USSR but in case you have some old red stars lying around. The build thread has a scan of the decals and of the Camo pattern Edited February 18, 2022 by bianfuxia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigster Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 No, no, no, you got me wrong! What I was trying to say, you're discarding MF fish scheme (can I get it 😉), to make R. Fair enough if you got enough info to add / discard bits on Eduard kit. Then you telling us, that you want to do it in those colours: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8118541 And this is just another MF ? WTF? As far as I know, all PAF Mig's R's were in (boring) silver paint, not NMF. that was dumped long time ago due to concerns about health issues with aluminum dust. All those "Arabic" planes, you show, would be much more interesting in "visual thing" Happy glueing! zig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 20, 2022 Author Share Posted February 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, zigster said: No, no, no, you got me wrong! What I was trying to say, you're discarding MF fish scheme (can I get it 😉), to make R. Fair enough if you got enough info to add / discard bits on Eduard kit. Then you telling us, that you want to do it in those colours: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8118541 And this is just another MF ? WTF? As far as I know, all PAF Mig's R's were in (boring) silver paint, not NMF. that was dumped long time ago due to concerns about health issues with aluminum dust. All those "Arabic" planes, you show, would be much more interesting in "visual thing" Happy glueing! zig Oh if I mis-understood you, I am seriously sorry. I don't need the decals other than Roundels ? So can give them to you, if you want them. Let me know if its just the Polish “Fish” scheme you want ? Direct message me if you wish to talk more about it. I do want to do an “R” just not in the Silver scheme. I know its not accurate and I will/can live with that. Im still looking at Egyptian A.F. RF’s and may attempt to fabricate the built in camera housing on their planes. If I can do that I will switch to that scheme. Im also considering doing it as the photo, mounting the Rocket launchers and either the AA missiles, tanks, or F.A.B. 250’s on the pylons ? I have time to sort this as I wont start till late this week coming or next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 Good morning everyone … Finally able to get a start on this. Not much kind you but the interior turquoise. Close up shots. New color mix, from Tamiya paints. My research says the main visual reference other than some internals are the wingtip SPO-3 sensors. That and two T shaped antennas under neath the wing tips. But Ive seen those on non “R’s” so might not be related. They're in the kit so all good on them. SPO-3 sensor: Front of the aircraft is this direction. ⬅️ So that the little antenna face rearward, and the little fillet is between the pod and the leading edge of the wing. Seen on the right side drawing. Now The 1/48 MiG-21R kit has these as part of the wings, I need to add them. I think these little bombs once modified should do the job. Still researching to see if I can find anything else that needs to be added. Please feel free to ask questions, post comments or add thoughts. Dennis 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Its more progress than I have made Dennis! I like the little bombs you plan on using for the wingtip sensors, they look like they will do the job perfectly.👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 Hello everyone … Well a little bit more done now. I assembled the office, landing gear, and Engine bits. Please feel free to ask questions, post comments or add thoughts. Dennis 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almac Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Nice work so far Dennis. Cheers Allan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dansk Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 love the cockpit Dennis. You colour mix looks spot on for it too. nice work 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dansk said: love the cockpit Dennis. You colour mix looks spot on for it too. nice work 👍 Thank you sir in case anyone was curious the mix is Tamiya MiG-21 cockpit Blue/Green #2 = X14 x 9 + XF-71 x 4 + XF2 x 7. Well I have to admit these things build up pretty quick. Im going to have to get a few more as Ive got several schemes and decal options. So tonight gets us to this point. Not sure it needed it but flattened some fishing weights and glued them in just to be safe. I may need to lighten this interior yellow green even more. It looks to green right now. And yes my subject seems to have this color in the wells. The only gap I had is on the belly, right at the wing/fuselage join. It was so fine I used index card cut to shape and C/A. Waited about 10-15 minutes and wet-sanded it down. A little bit of surfacer will take care of the rest. For a quick size comparison, here is a Cavalier P-51 Mustang. Please feel free to ask questions, post comments or add thoughts. Dennis Edited February 25, 2022 by Corsairfoxfouruncle 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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