GiampieroSilvestri Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 What colour are the wheels of British Corsairs painted?The painting instructions of the Hobbyboss model do not say what colour is to be used but the drawing show a dark colour.A picture of a original aircraft shows the wheels painted in a light colour,maybe white or light grey. Thank you very much Saluti Giampiero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tail-Dragon Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Depends on the time period and overall scheme. Is it finished in Temperate sea scheme (most likely 'sky' hubs), or overall Sea blue (most likely Sea blue hubs)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Beema Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Underside colour would be my approach.. In this case Sky (Sky Grey Equivalent). https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205186853 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Take your pick- I have seen aluminum, sky, and sea blue, depending upon the color scheme; same for the landing gear struts. Dana Bell did two outstanding monographs on F4U-1's that I would highly recommend in the Aircraft Pictorial series Nos. 7 and 8. Everything you always wanted to know about F4U-1's and didn't even know to ask! Incredible details as well as exterior and interior colors. (No, I don't owe Dana money or get any consideration for commenting upon his reference works- I just buy everything the man writes!) Mike I'm pretty sure you can find them both on the well-known bookseller that begins with an 'A' at very reasonable prices. @Dana Bell If you see this, please convince Jim S to do the rest of the series! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doolie Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, 72modeler said: I'm pretty sure you can find them both on the well-known bookseller that begins with an 'A' at very reasonable prices. Abebooks? 🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, Doolie said: Abebooks? 🤔 No, the OTHER one! The one named after the river! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, 72modeler said: No, the OTHER one! The one named after the river! Mike Aww, c'mon, we'll need a better clue that that! Aberjona River - Massachusetts Abiqua Creek - Oregon Abita River - Louisiana Acushnet River - Massachusetts Agawam River - Massachusetts Agua Fria River - Arizona Ahnapee River - Wisconsin Alabama River - Alabama Alafia River - Florida Alagnak River - Alaska Alameda Creek - California Alamo River - California Alamosa River - Colorado Alapaha River - Georgia, Florida Alatna River - Alaska Albion River - California Alcovy River - Georgia Alexander Creek - Alaska Aliso Creek (Los Angeles County) - California Aliso Creek (Orange County) - California Allagash River - Maine Allegheny River - Pennsylvania, New York Alligator River - North Carolina Alsea River - Oregon Alsek River - Alaska Altamaha River - Georgia Alum Creek - Ohio Am - An[edit] Amargosa River - California, Nevada American Fork - Utah American River - California American River - Washington Americano Creek - California Amite River - Mississippi, Louisiana Ammonoosuc River - New Hampshire Amnicon River - Wisconsin Anacostia River - Maryland, District of Columbia Anahulu River - Hawaii Anaktuvuk River - Alaska Anclote River - Florida Anderson River - Indiana Andreafsky River - Alaska Androscoggin River - New Hampshire, Maine Angelina River - Texas Aniak River - Alaska Aniakchak River - Alaska Animas River - Colorado, New Mexico Anna River - Michigan Annaquatucket River - Rhode Island Annisquam River - Massachusetts Antietam Creek - Pennsylvania, Maryland Antoine Creek - Louisiana Antoine River - Arkansas Anvik River - Alaska Apalachicola River - Florida Apple River - Wisconsin, Illinois Apple River - Wisconsin Applegate River - Oregon Appomattox River - Virginia Appoquinimink River - Delaware Aransas River - Texas Ararat River - Virginia, North Carolina Arikaree River - Colorado, Kansas, Nebraska Arkansas River - Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma, Arkansas Armstrong Creek - Pennsylvania Armstrong Creek - West Virginia Arnold Creek - West Virginia Aroostook River - Maine Arrow Creek - Montana Arroyo de en Medio - California Arroyo Seco - California Arroyo Trabuco - California Artichoke River - Minnesota Ashaway River - Rhode Island Ashepoo River - South Carolina Ashippun River - Wisconsin Ashley River - South Carolina Ashtabula River - Ohio Ashuelot River - New Hampshire Assabet River - Massachusetts Assonet River - Massachusetts Atchafalaya River - Louisiana Au Sable River - Michigan Aucilla River - Florida Auglaize River - Ohio Ausable River - New York Awuna River - Alaska And that's just the good 'ole US of A 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishplanebeer Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Mike, Any idea who the author is please as I've tried looking on Amazon under Aircraft Pictorial and it's not coming up with this particular series? Regards Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishplanebeer Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Mike, Apologies but just found some under Classic Warships Publishing (?) although they do seem to be a little pricey here in the UK with the Number 8 at around £43, but there may be a cheaper seller out there possibly. Regards Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fukuryu Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 https://www.amazon.com/Aircraft-Pictorial-No-Corsair-2014-05-03/dp/B01FIY7O74/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1BGH8RXTNHYIC&keywords=dana+bell&qid=1643395836&s=books&sprefix=dana+bell%2Cstripbooks%2C253&sr=1-1 https://www.amazon.com/Aircraft-Pictorial-No-F4U-1-Corsair/dp/0985714999/ref=pd_bxgy_img_1/145-7883679-3484224?pd_rd_w=5oW8E&pf_rd_p=6b3eefea-7b16-43e9-bc45-2e332cbf99da&pf_rd_r=FBJPSQ7H725EDFCZKZ3J&pd_rd_r=010342ac-3908-43af-86eb-9d2ae93ba24f&pd_rd_wg=ozfny&pd_rd_i=0985714999&psc=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidrian Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) Theere's no single correct answer. Most of this comes from carefully hoarded posts by Dana Bell who knows a thing or two about this.... For the landing gear (but not the wheels) Vought built machines kept using non specular gray for a while after the change to overall GSB, as Chrysler who made the gear had apparently laid in vast stocks of Light Gray paint. The Vought diagram below gives four options for this scheme - six if you allow for three different versions of blue. If your Corsair is to be in TSS using US equivalent colours these woudl be ANA 613 OD, 603 Sea Gray and 602 Light Gray ANA 610 Sky underneath and in the wheel wells, and the gear itself was almost certainly Non-Specular Light Gray Of curse, what happened with components that had been overhauled by the use is another matter - I blelive the standard RAF and FAA finish for repaired components that required repainting was aluminium, but don't have a definitive reference for this. The wheels themselves generally show up as a light colour even on overall blue machines, so that probably rules out all the blue shades even on machines with the landing gear finshed in GSB. It's not white, so that suggests NS light gray or more likely aluminium as some factory photos with nice fresh paint have a distinct shine which isn't something associated with NS Light Gray.This is not the modern bright silver colour usied on cars but something that looks distinctly grey at any distance other right up close. I use a mix of about 50/50 whiite and silver for this PIc Edited January 28, 2022 by Aidrian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, Aidrian said: If your Corsair is to be in TSS using US equivalent colours these woudl be ANA 613 OD, 603 Sea Gray and 602 Light Gray underneath and in the wheel wells, 3 hours ago, Grey Beema said: In this case Sky (Sky Grey Equivalent). AFAIK, the undersides were in ANA 610 Sky, IIRC ANA 602 is overall light gray seen early war It's slightly less saturated and greyer than MAP Sky, but close. 1 hour ago, fishplanebeer said: here in the UK with the Number 8 at around £43, but there may be a cheaper seller out there possibly. Try the Aviation Bookshop, that's where I got mine from. https://www.aviation-bookshop.com/shop/aircraft-pictorial-7-f4u-1-corsair-vol-1/ They are not always in stock, but they had both at times. HTH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidrian Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, Troy Smith said: AFAIK, the undersides were in ANA 610 Sky, IIRC ANA 602 is overall light gray seen early war Thanks - possibly too much NS light grey on the brain. I'll edit so some poor sod doent come across that in a few years and think that I knew what Iwas talking about... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishplanebeer Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Troy, Thanks for the UK link as the others are on Amazon.com and they don't seem to be able to ship to the UK. I plan to build the Tamiya F4U-1A (72nd scale) after my Eduard Hellcat and already have the SAM/MDF book so will probably stick with this for the time being as it seems to cover the US variants quite well. Regards Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, fishplanebeer said: Thanks for the UK link as the others are on Amazon.com and they don't seem to be able to ship to the UK. That's why I gave you a UK link The shop is amazing, all it sells is aviation books, plus a wall of kits. 16 minutes ago, fishplanebeer said: I plan to build the Tamiya F4U-1A (72nd scale) after my Eduard Hellcat and already have the SAM/MDF book so will probably stick with this for the time being as it seems to cover the US variants quite well. the @Dana Bell books go into very fine detail, and have information not available anywhere else. The SAM/MDF is one of the better ones in the series IIRC. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 7 hours ago, Dave Swindell said: Aww, c'mon, we'll need a better clue that that! Aberjona River - Massachusetts Abiqua Creek - Oregon Abita River - Louisiana Acushnet River - Massachusetts Agawam River - Massachusetts Agua Fria River - Arizona Ahnapee River - Wisconsin Alabama River - Alabama Alafia River - Florida Alagnak River - Alaska Alameda Creek - California Alamo River - California Alamosa River - Colorado Alapaha River - Georgia, Florida Alatna River - Alaska Albion River - California Alcovy River - Georgia Alexander Creek - Alaska Aliso Creek (Los Angeles County) - California Aliso Creek (Orange County) - California Allagash River - Maine Allegheny River - Pennsylvania, New York Alligator River - North Carolina Alsea River - Oregon Alsek River - Alaska Altamaha River - Georgia Alum Creek - Ohio Am - An[edit] Amargosa River - California, Nevada American Fork - Utah American River - California American River - Washington Americano Creek - California Amite River - Mississippi, Louisiana Ammonoosuc River - New Hampshire Amnicon River - Wisconsin Anacostia River - Maryland, District of Columbia Anahulu River - Hawaii Anaktuvuk River - Alaska Anclote River - Florida Anderson River - Indiana Andreafsky River - Alaska Androscoggin River - New Hampshire, Maine Angelina River - Texas Aniak River - Alaska Aniakchak River - Alaska Animas River - Colorado, New Mexico Anna River - Michigan Annaquatucket River - Rhode Island Annisquam River - Massachusetts Antietam Creek - Pennsylvania, Maryland Antoine Creek - Louisiana Antoine River - Arkansas Anvik River - Alaska Apalachicola River - Florida Apple River - Wisconsin, Illinois Apple River - Wisconsin Applegate River - Oregon Appomattox River - Virginia Appoquinimink River - Delaware Aransas River - Texas Ararat River - Virginia, North Carolina Arikaree River - Colorado, Kansas, Nebraska Arkansas River - Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma, Arkansas Armstrong Creek - Pennsylvania Armstrong Creek - West Virginia Arnold Creek - West Virginia Aroostook River - Maine Arrow Creek - Montana Arroyo de en Medio - California Arroyo Seco - California Arroyo Trabuco - California Artichoke River - Minnesota Ashaway River - Rhode Island Ashepoo River - South Carolina Ashippun River - Wisconsin Ashley River - South Carolina Ashtabula River - Ohio Ashuelot River - New Hampshire Assabet River - Massachusetts Assonet River - Massachusetts Atchafalaya River - Louisiana Au Sable River - Michigan Aucilla River - Florida Auglaize River - Ohio Ausable River - New York Awuna River - Alaska And that's just the good 'ole US of A Somebody's got WAY too much free time- step slowly away from that keyboard, Dave, and nobody will get hurt! Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 6 hours ago, fishplanebeer said: Mike, Any idea who the author is please as I've tried looking on Amazon under Aircraft Pictorial and it's not coming up with this particular series? Regards Colin. Uh- Dana Bell- didn't I list him in my post? 😥 Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 6 hours ago, fishplanebeer said: Mike, Apologies but just found some under Classic Warships Publishing (?) although they do seem to be a little pricey here in the UK with the Number 8 at around £43, but there may be a cheaper seller out there possibly. Regards Colin. You mean something on THIS side of the pond is actually cheaper than in the UK? Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishplanebeer Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Oops, I'd assumed Dana Bell was a contributor to the books as Amazon also drew a blank when I searched his name, but I got there in the end. Regards Colin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dov Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 What colour are the wheels of British Corsairs painted? This question is impossible to be answered correctly. Why? The time range is not limited. The variant is not limited. The area of operation is not limited. Such an open question causes all people with a good will to help, and you end up in an avalanche of good and right answeres, but you also you will end up in confusion. Please ask more specificly. In this case you can be sure to get an proper answer. Happy modelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Starmer Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 I have just skimmed through about two hundred images of Corsairs in both US and FAA schemes, some in colour. The much greater part of those show dull aluminium finish. It would seen from these that the external finish wasn't a factor for the wheel colour. Why should it be? The FAA example has one in aluminium and the other a very worn dark greyish blue. The recesses in all cases look black. They almost certainly had some type of anti-corrosion finish ex-factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix44 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Mike Starmer said: I have just skimmed through about two hundred images of Corsairs in both US and FAA schemes, some in colour. The much greater part of those show dull aluminium finish. It would seen from these that the external finish wasn't a factor for the wheel colour. Why should it be? The FAA example has one in aluminium and the other a very worn dark greyish blue. The recesses in all cases look black. They almost certainly had some type of anti-corrosion finish ex-factory. Not what the book says. The aluminium one is not original but the GSB one almost certainly is - it still has traces of the waxy covering used on the wheels for Atlantic crossing - and it matches extremely well with the original tyres. There's no evidence of a repaint. The undercarriage itself also appears to be GSB from the factory. This is a Goodyear Corsair, so Vought might differ. There is correspondence Dana Bell quotes where Goodyear complain to the governmen about u/c components still being supplied in grey rather than GSB. I suspect they complained because it meant more cost to them to paint them GSB at the factory. If they just left them grey, why bother complaining? Edited January 29, 2022 by Phoenix44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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