Farmerboy Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) Hello all you Tank heads, l'm giving Armour modeling another outing and enjoying the ride this time with something a bit more up to date. It was a fun build, no major problems in construction although there was so many alternative parts in the box you have to be carefull to identify the correct parts. Main paints were Mr Hobby with Humbrol and Tamiya details, and l attempted very basic wethering using Flory washes and sponge chipping. Lots of room for improvement, although l should not be silvering the decals at my age, so any advice would be greatfully recieved. Edited January 28, 2022 by Farmerboy new pictures added 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carius Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Very nice, building and painting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartH Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Great work and very well finished👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phildagreek Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Looks good from here. The key to decals is a good, clean high gloss surface. put the decal down - whenever possible I avoid panel lines, rivets etc and get all the water from underneath it and then a small amount of setting solution to get it to settle down. When it’s good and dry - 24 hours later get another coat of gloss varnish on. If you’ve got slivering then a steady hand, a fine brush & some of the base colour to cover it. If you can still see it then on armour you can always hang some kit on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 13 hours ago, phildagreek said: If you can still see it then on armour you can always... Chip it! I think this looks great. That gun is awesome! There are a lot of big flat areas on this APC. Maybe the next thing for you to explore is modulating the paint tones with post or pre shading, washes or oils, or any of the other ways... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpmeyer Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 I really liked this clean look. The color resembles (very slightly, of course...) the desert pink used by the British in the western desert during WW2. Health, Fabio. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullbasket Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 That's different. Nice clean finish. Looks great. John. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Nicely done. Not seen this model before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmerboy Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 On 1/28/2022 at 10:45 PM, phildagreek said: The key to decals is a good, clean high gloss surface. On 1/29/2022 at 12:10 PM, Bertie Psmith said: There are a lot of big flat areas on this APC. Maybe the next thing for you to explore is modulating the paint tones with post or pre shading, washes or oils, or any of the other ways... Thanks for the comments and positive input, l did gloss the surface prior to decaling but l found that the decals were very thick and took ages to release from the backing paper and despite using Micro Sol & Setthey still silvered, l have now painted over the offending areas and it looks a lot better. I didn't really know how to tackle weathering a desert vehicle, l lightened the base colour as l imagined it would fade quickley in the desert and used Flory's grime wash around grills, bolts and running gear. l then used a sand wash scrubed around the lower parts or the model but they don't really show up well in the photos. Would a tank in the desert rust? should there be streaking down those big flat areas? the photo's l found were very poor so didn't help much. Next AFV will be more "Green" so l look forward to giving it another go! thanks again for your comments cheers Peter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, Farmerboy said: Would a tank in the desert rust? should there be streaking down those big flat areas? I guess desert photos tend to be over exposed and lose the weathering. It's hard to photograph the weathering we do too for the same reason I think. I think there would be a lot of condensation on the metal of the tank during the night and this makes me guess that there would be some slight rust, they were up and down the coast road a lot too with the sea air? I think the condensation would move the dust into streaks as it ran down those big flat areas. There was a lot of oil used in the desert too. Grease was no good for most applications as it mixed with sand to make grinding paste! Lighter oil would run and puddle in the high temperatures, causing more streaks and mess. Soldiers in hobnailed boots walking all over the things soon chipped off a lot of paint down to grey steel as well as scratching the paint back to unbleached desert yellow. I'd use sponge chipping with a more yellow yellow and then fill in some of the marks with steel grey. If you chip a weld line you can use a bright steel as weld stays shiny. Fuel leaks, oil leaks, exhaust stains. The black stains left by filthy soldiers hands and bums when they sat in the hatches... All these things make the model interesting (if perhaps not absolutely accurate) You can even highlight the edges of the vehicle with paint to suggest bright sunshine, or run a soft lead pencil along them and polish it to give the same effect. This is all my humble opinion and conjecture, by the way. I wasn't there. Nor were the people who look at your tank so do whatever pleases you! 😄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMRL Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 That's really nice, I love the turret, cannon and ammo detailing, although the whole thing looks good. A nice "clean" look, without it looking unbelievably clean. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmerboy Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 Thanks Bertie for your reply, everything you say makes perfect sense, l think l need to use a little more creative thinking in my painting and finishing! 1 hour ago, Bertie Psmith said: This is all my humble opinion and conjecture, by the way. I wasn't there. Nor were the people who look at your tank so do whatever pleases you! 😄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 39 minutes ago, Farmerboy said: Thanks Bertie for your reply, everything you say makes perfect sense, l think l need to use a little more creative thinking in my painting and finishing! I have to admit that while writing I was thinking of the desert theatre of WWII but it's all the same place... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sardaukar Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 APC go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Very cool, I like unusual subjects and nicely done. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Bertie Psmith said: I have to admit that while writing I was thinking of the desert theatre of WWII but it's all the same place... I was wondering where you got those hob nailed boots from that you mentioned above? @Farmerboy, this might be useful as an alternative in decal placement, very effective against silvering. I do like this beasty, a really deadly looking combo. I wonder how long it takes to fire off its whole belly full of ammo? Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maginot Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Very nice work. Excellent attention to detail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilspen Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 I am a big fan of the M113 and not seen one of these built before. After seeing yours, I will be looking out for one. It is a nice finish, shame about the decals, but not that noticeable. The detail painting of the turret is impressive, very well defined. Cheers Neil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevej60 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Cracking build FB,now the suject of weathering to me is the same with AFV'a as aircraft it's a matter of taste now personally I like modern stuff especially Gulf war era clean,most of the kit was freshly painted for that conflict so would have rolled out the shed in a similar condition,no snow,rain or mud to play with but dust yes.Anyway cracking job as I've said!And agree with Phil gloss for decals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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