Slater Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Pilot is apparently OK. Is this the first F-35C loss? https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/Press-Releases/display-pressreleases/Article/2909515/f-35c-lightning-ii-has-landing-mishap-on-uss-carl-vinson/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Not sure, but thankfully Pilot and all sailors involved appear to have survived the incident, hopefully without too serious injuries. Carrier flying is still a dangerous occupation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewolf Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Doesn't actually say what the 'mishap' was? Presumably a crash on deck as there is no mention of the airframe being lost in the water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Hmm suitably vague...hope the guys ashore survive with no life changing injuries....interesting incident 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 A little more. https://theaviationist.com/2022/01/24/f-35c-landing-mishap/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagRigger Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Snapped wire ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Entry into service is a rocky road when there's such high risk involved 😔 It's also bad luck for the carrier group(s), Abraham Lincoln suffered a fatal MH-60 crash only a few months ago, too 😔 10 hours ago, Smudge said: Carrier flying is still a dangerous occupation. Indeed it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 3 hours ago, JagRigger said: Snapped wire ? There was early history of the problems with the hook, I believe they had to re-position it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailspin Turtle Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 hours ago, bentwaters81tfw said: There was early history of the problems with the hook, I believe they had to re-position it. Fixed. More here plus links to more as well as comments: https://thanlont.blogspot.com/2013/12/f-35c-so-far-so-good.html One interesting aspect to this. The Navy introduced a carrier-landing assist system, Magic Carpet, which might be on the F-35C and takes almost all the degree of difficulty out of carrier landings. In fact, it supposedly introduced a new problem, the accuracy and consistency of touchdown resulting in excessive wear and tear at specific points on the deck and the targeted arresting wire: https://news.usni.org/2021/02/08/navy-brings-precision-landing-mode-carrier-landing-assist-tool-to-new-fighter-pilots 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailspin Turtle Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 In the absence of official detail (also telling in and of itself), my guess is an arresting cable failure. The snapback of the two halves would cause significant injuries to people on the deck (see videos of cable failures) and the airplane would go off the angle without sufficient airspeed to climb, necessitating the pilot’s ejection. The Navy would not want anybody else recovering the wreckage, hence the need to avoid stating that the airplane had gone in the water (see the Brit accident in the Med). The new consistency of landing at the mid point of the targeted wire increases the risk of repetitive damage resulting in its failure, although it is supposed to be inspected for visible damage often enough to preclude failure; it may be that the interval is not frequent enough or the damage is not as visible as expected. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Latest reports say it subsequently fell overboard - another salvage job - right on China's doorstep. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 https://village.photos/images/user/483a5850-3d62-4900-8176-6062170ac842/b1521f8b-eba2-42d6-b1c4-67d4becac096.jpg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said: https://village.photos/images/user/483a5850-3d62-4900-8176-6062170ac842/b1521f8b-eba2-42d6-b1c4-67d4becac096.jpg Village photos still haven't paid their SSL certificate fee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 42 minutes ago, Mike said: Village photos still haven't paid their SSL certificate fee. Bounders... Let's try this instead! 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaceAddict Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 More about it here: https://theaviationist.com/2022/01/27/photo-supposedly-showing-the-f-35c-that-fell-into-the-sea-after-landing-mishap-leaked-online/ Now might be a good time to start a new business enterprise... "F-35 Deep Sea Retrieval"... you'll be getting government contracts in no time. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnT Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 On 25/01/2022 at 18:46, bentwaters81tfw said: Latest reports say it subsequently fell overboard - another salvage job - right on China's doorstep. BBC reporting here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60148482 Given it’s a landing mishap they presumably know exactly where it is so why not park all that hardware of their battle group on top of it until the salvage boys arrive while making it very clear any attention is unwanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bradley Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Depends on the depth of the water - it could have 'glided' a considerable distance underwater. However, I would imagine there was a submarine with the task group, which might have been able to track it on sonar, and that it's still in the area even now to prevent interference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slater Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 Sounds like a job for Airwolf. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaceAddict Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Paul Bradley said: Depends on the depth of the water - it could have 'glided' a considerable distance underwater. The potential for gliding underwater is something I've thought about since the RAF just went under 2 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said: Bounders... Let's try this instead! They'll need to put it in rice when it's pulled out of the water. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootneck Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Just stick some rolled up sheets of newspapers in the cockpit and engine bay. Well, it works with my shoes! Mike 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 22 minutes ago, Stephen said: They'll need to put it in rice when it's pulled out of the water. Can't use Chinese rice, it'll be full of spyware 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 I think the problem, from careful consideration of the wake disturbed water around the plane, is that it was going backwards. You can only do that with the F-35B model, not the F-35C, which is limited to forwards-only operation. 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Time to start thinking about fitting floatation bags if they are going to keep throwing them in the water lol (would put my mates out of work though!) Duncan B 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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