72modeler Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) I found these two videos and had to share them! A couple of very capable designs- one that came too late, and the other bested by its competitor, the legendary AD Sktyraider. Lots of interesting photos in both videos, and both can be had in 1/72 scale: Pavla (Octopus) did an injected TBY, CMR did a resin kit, and Wings did a vacfrom. . CMR did a resin AM-1; Siga and Ace did injected kits. Naval Fighters did monographs on each design. I think the Mauler still holds the record for the largest payload ever carried by a single-engine airplane. I have seen the Mauler on display at the National Museum of Naval Aviation and it is a BIG airplane with the most massive landing gear struts I have ever seen on a single engine airplane! Footage via You Tube Mike Edited January 22, 2022 by 72modeler added text, corrected spelling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e8n2 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 The one on the Mauler will be a good inspiration to get started on my Ace kit. I already have it on my build goal list for this year. Later, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EwenS Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 The SB2C Helldiver was also capable of dropping a torpedo although it was never used operationally with such a weapon. USN plans would have seen the TBF/TBM Avenger removed from CVB/CV/CVL air groups in 1945/46 with more Helldivers being carried instead on the CVB/CV and all fighter air groups on the CVL. https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/usa/aircrafts-2-3/sb2c/sb2c-4-20411-torpedo-fitted-with-a-wooden-drag-ring-mar45/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 3 hours ago, EwenS said: The SB2C Helldiver was also capable of dropping a torpedo although it was never used operationally with such a weapon. USN plans would have seen the TBF/TBM Avenger removed from CVB/CV/CVL air groups in 1945/46 with more Helldivers being carried instead on the CVB/CV and all fighter air groups on the CVL. https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/usa/aircrafts-2-3/sb2c/sb2c-4-20411-torpedo-fitted-with-a-wooden-drag-ring-mar45/ If the war had lasted long enough, then the AD Skyraider would have replaced them both! (Ooh- if only early enough for them to be in tri-color; there's a what-if!) Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 8 hours ago, e8n2 said: The one on the Mauler will be a good inspiration to get started on my Ace kit. I already have it on my build goal list for this year. Later, Dave http://www.kitreview.com/reviews/maulerreviewbg_1.htm Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EwenS Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, 72modeler said: If the war had lasted long enough, then the AD Skyraider would have replaced them both! (Ooh- if only early enough for them to be in tri-color; there's a what-if!) Mike Well, considering that the XBT2D-1 AKA the AD-1 didn't fly until March 1945 and with the post war slowdown the first production aircraft didn't fly until Dec 1946, then the war would have needed to have gone on for at least another year for the Skyraider to have seen war service. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsr Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 If I recall correctly while the AM-1 could haul an incredible amount of ordnance, if it was fully loaded it could only carry enough fuel to take off, fly around the carrier and then land again. This is my Siga Mauler Built back in 2014. I don't remember any major issues with it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Maas Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, hsr said: If I recall correctly while the AM-1 could haul an incredible amount of ordnance, if it was fully loaded it could only carry enough fuel to take off, fly around the carrier and then land again. Range wasn't an issue with the AM-1, it actually carried 120gal more internal fuel than the AD-1 did. It was lousy low-speed handling that made it a pig to land on anything smaller than a Midway class carrier combined with an absolutely legendarily leaky hydraulics system that doomed the type. The AM-1Q were shorter-legged though, but that was due to removing the fuselage fuel tank in order to fit electronics and an operator inside. Edited January 22, 2022 by Adam Maas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e8n2 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 15 hours ago, 72modeler said: http://www.kitreview.com/reviews/maulerreviewbg_1.htm Mike As I remember it, and I think this is mentioned in the Navy Fighters book, the Ace kit comes with etched brass for the flaps with the comb tooth arrangement for the dive brakes. I've already set the alarm for the night so I can't check it out right now. Later, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 On 1/21/2022 at 8:52 PM, 72modeler said: a BIG airplane with the most massive landing gear struts I have ever seen on a single engine airplane! See what I mean? I remember thinking when I was photographing the one at the NMNA that the main gear struts look like they were taken from a B-26 Marauder- what do you chaps think? Mike http://www.arcair.com/awa01/101-200/awa127-Mauler-Juvet/04.shtm https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/imgs/lrg/martin-am-mauler-carrierborne-attack-aircraft-usnavy.jpg Nice cockpit photo for you detail freaks: http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/aww2/am1/am1-13.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweener Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 1/22/2022 at 9:22 AM, 72modeler said: If the war had lasted long enough, then the AD Skyraider would have replaced them both! (Ooh- if only early enough for them to be in tri-color; there's a what-if!) Mike Perhaps then the Skyraider would have actually looked nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Member @Geoffrey Sinclair has asked me to post this here: Chris, for Geoffrey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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