meindert Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 I am modelling a couple of old Airfix Vulcan B.2 kits in 1/72. A friend of mine brought along his new tooled Airfix Vulcan B.2 kit. On this new fine kit, vortex generators are moulded in 2 rows with 6 front and 10 rear ones on each upper wing have approx mid span. Now I also had a Flightpath etched metal set. The set indicates entirely different locations of these vortex generators but probably the drawing is for a B.1 with different wing. The drawing shows a single row with 6 + 10 generators, more situated outboard. Was indeed the location of the vortex generators completely different between the B.1 wing and the B.2 wing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Good question, on the new kit they seem over represented, would love to see a clear image of the vortex generators on the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 On 14/01/2022 at 13:06, meindert said: A friend of mine brought along his new tooled Airfix Vulcan B.2 kit. On this new fine kit, vortex generators are moulded in 2 rows with 6 front and 10 rear ones on each upper wing have approx mid span. Now I also had a Flightpath etched metal set. The set indicates entirely different locations of these vortex generators but probably the drawing is for a B.1 with different wing. The drawing shows a single row with 6 + 10 generators, more situated outboard. Was indeed the location of the vortex generators completely different between the B.1 wing and the B.2 wing? The B1 had vortex generators, as per the Flightpath kit etch parts The B2 didn't have vortex generators, and there's none moulded on either new or old tool Airfix kits What you're seeing on the new tool Airfix kit is a (rather exaggerated) representation of a modification. Given the position, they appear to be Skybolt related, and look like either strengthening or inspection plugs. They're difficult to spot on photo's, and don't seem to appear until the late 70's. There's some on the upper surface between the tailpipes as well Late photos of the fin show a pattern of inspection plugs on either side which Airfix haven't represented, these might be the same. Model wise if you're doing a late camo scheme with D type roundels and have a photo where you can see them, sand them down until they're just about gone, for any earlier schemes I'd suggest removing them. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 That explains, it thanks Dave, tried looking at good images of museum aircraft and I can't spot the detail at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 46 minutes ago, 71chally said: That explains, it thanks Dave, tried looking at good images of museum aircraft and I can't spot the detail at all. Quite understandably there's loads of detail shots around of the underside of vulcan wings, but very few of the topside. There's a couple in the walkround section (copied below) showing XH558 under maintenance where these points are visible, primarily because there doesn't appear to be any paint on them (or possibly just primer) Once painted you're relying on a combination of dirt accumulation and shadow for them to be visible, and you have to be actively looking in the right place to see them 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) To add to Dave's excellent photos, https://nickpic.host/image/uGew7j And for comparison, the B.2 upper wing skin https://nickpic.host/image/uGkXy8 John Edited January 16, 2022 by canberra kid 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 24 minutes ago, canberra kid said: To add to Dave's excellent photos, Just for clarity, the photo's are @Mike's from the walkround section, I just borrowed a couple to illustrate the point. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 49 minutes ago, canberra kid said: To add to Dave's excellent photos, And for comparison, the B.2 upper wing skin John I can't the images John, not sure if the links have broken? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 32 minutes ago, 71chally said: I can't the images John, not sure if the links have broken? I'll try again, let me know if it's ok? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, canberra kid said: I'll try again, let me know if it's ok? John The photo's are there in both posts John, not sure why James isn't seeing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Weird I can't see either set of images from a computer or phone? Thanks for trying again though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, 71chally said: Weird I can't see either set of images from a computer or phone? Thanks for trying again though. Very odd indeed James, have you tried the link I added? Can you see the text? Can you see the images in the F-104G post James? John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Apologies John, it was the browser at work (which also my phone switches to - unknown to me!) which was blocking the images. I can see them them now I'm home, thank you for your help and the info! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meindert Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 Hi Dave and John very interesting, thank you for information! Meindert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 hours ago, meindert said: Hi Dave and John very interesting, thank you for information! Meindert No problem, I hope they help? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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