Lord Riot Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 Rudder pedals in place. The intakes need a lot of filler and sanding, there’s a huge gap at the join. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 A bit more Hawk-shaped now. Surprisingly, the fuselage halves join pretty well and will need little if any filler. The wings, however, after a dry fit, are a different story. Huge gaps at the roots, particularly just behind the intakes. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 More filler needed! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 That looks familiar! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filler Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Brings back memories of when I built one a few years back. Plenty of filler but it makes a nice model with the effort. Wrong colours on mine though (but not as wrong as black). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 Looks good to me @Filler! Very nice grey Hawk that, I was tempted to do mine in that scheme. You’re absolutely right, they don’t look right in all over black. Only four schemes suit the Hawk; green/grey wraparound, red & white, all grey or red arrows. A bit more done on this. I made the little protuberances on the leading edge from plastic card, as they’re not in the kit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shalako Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I don't want to drag you into making some changes but I think - I repeat, I think - that those panels in the rear of the fuselage are not correct. Perhaps someone who knows the kit better can confirm/refute my point. Cheers, Bill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Lord Riot said: Looks good to me @Filler! Very nice grey Hawk that, I was tempted to do mine in that scheme. You’re absolutely right, they don’t look right in all over black. Only four schemes suit the Hawk; green/grey wraparound, red & white, all grey or red arrows. To paraphrase the late great Meatloaf 2 out of 4 ain’t bad. I do fancy a grey with black tail like @Filler’s though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 Thanks for all the comments gents, and those cracking Hawk photos! The kit just has indentations where there should be more like grills, so I filled these with liquid putty then scored lines in. They look better when you don’t zoom in! I’ll tidy them up once the putty sets. I’m not sure what that blowhole is for, even though the fuselage shape is a little dolphinesque. Do I need to drill it deeper, fill it, put a grid over it? … I made the long aerial for under the forward fuselage as this wasn’t in the kit either. Canopy masked then dry fitted with blu-tack ready for spraying soon. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 Using the brilliant Britmodeller walk around section, it appears I needed to do some work on the airbrake bay. The kit one is just an empty space, so with the help of a thin offcut of spare missile rail and plastic card I made a few rudimentary details to bring it to life a bit. First up, a central line to bend the card over to give a bit of a curved interior. Far from accurate, but an improvement on the bare pit that was there before. It’ll hardly be seen once the airbrake is fitted anyway. I’m assuming the interior will be red, same as the main airframe underside. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 I got some of the spraying done in the last couple of days; light aircraft grey for the inner wings, which I then bagged up and masked, and today the gloss (more like satin) white upper fuselage. This seems to be taking ages to dry. I’ll leave the white to dry thoroughly then mask that up ready for spraying the Humbrol 19 gloss red. No idea if that’s 100% accurate, everyone seems to use Gunze these days, but the old Humbrol rattle can is good enough for me. Probably why most kits on the forum look better than mine, but as it’s only me and my better half (who genuinely couldn’t tell a Hawk from a Spitfire and wouldn’t want to!) who really see them, that’s all good with me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Nothing wrong with a bit of Humbrol 19. I do think most colour has as much to do with the priming and application as it does with the stated shade. Mine is in 19. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 All masking removed. Not too bad, just a few small areas of touching up required. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 After a bit of touching up, including with a white Posca pen, it’s looking a bit neater now. About as good as I can get it anyway! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted January 29, 2022 Author Share Posted January 29, 2022 Anti-glare painted on the nose. Just Humbrol 33 matt black for this. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/13/2022 at 4:35 PM, bar side said: This is my 164 - pretty much out of the box with the decal set. I do like the flaps on this kit. I am just looking at a couple of red & white builds. The Jet Provost has just ventured out of its box & I got a Chippie for Christmas And very nice it is too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 The masking has worked nicely - looks like little to no bleed across the colours 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted January 30, 2022 Author Share Posted January 30, 2022 Working on the cockpit this afternoon, with the central fairing added. I don’t think the rear cockpit had a HUD, so I used plastic card to cover over the gap, and a couple of extra bits of detail. The clear partition was the wrong shape, being just flat along the base, so I cut and filed it to match the cockpit fairing shape. Seats added. I need to work out a way to display the canopy open but so the attachments still look realistic. Any suggestions? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Nope, never figured out how to pose a Hawk canopy open without gluing it permanently to the fuselage side. I guess some kit of L shaped wire bracket to run down inside the cockpit. Or maybe a wire along the hinge edge with wires dropping at 90 degrees that can do the same 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 Thanks @bar side, a couple of good ideas there. I think with some thin wire I may be able to fix something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Where’s @Fritag when you need him. Probably off on his bike somewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 I made the cockpit mirrors for inside the canopy. Always a relief when they don’t tailsit. I made a couple of hydraulic pipes on the oleos from wire painted black and bent into shape. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Really good work here! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Canopy brackets look good. Coming along very nicely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lane Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Hi, Nice build, I have built a model of XX164 in RWB myself. (as i began working on Hawks in 1983). Just as a matter of interest, The Hawk went through a number of changes when in the Red/White/ Grey scheme. It was around this period that the underwing serials were painted over in grey. There is a small triangular soft plastic piece at the bottom rear of the main undercarriage doors. This was a yellow/brown colour and was left unpainted. When the fleet was being fitted with 3 plate brakes this triangle was painted Golden yellow with -"Warning 3 plate brakes fitted" in 1/4 inch black letters. The MDC stencil below each canopy side was the same as the Harrier one. The Hawk shaped one came in much later. The Yellow "RESCUE" arrow had "From Either Side" painted under it. No Step area`s were marked as Red Crosses. These crosses were also applied to the rearmost fuselage panels. The aftermarket decal sheet shows the tailplane alignment lines on both Tailplanes. It was only ever applied to the Port tailplane and would line up with a similar line on the fuselage. Also a later addition was clear polyurethane tape. This was applied to flying surface leading edges to prevent erosion. This tape soon turned a yellowy/ Brown colour relatively quickly. I hope you find this useful for your buld. I look forward to seeing it finished! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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