Serkan Sen Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Hi all, Here is another Blackbird topic from me. In this WIP I will present the improvements/modifications I am planning to do on recently released 1:48 Revell SR-71A using the 3D printed parts I modeled for my other ongoing Blackbird/Oxcart projects. I will not go in detail for the kit review because recently @Mike posted an excellent review here: and @Alan P did a great WIP and RFI here: Here are some pictures of boxart and the sprues: The built Blackbird is the 1:48 Italeri/Testors kit which is used currently for 1:48 A-12B "Titanium Goose" conversion reported here: I hope you will enjoy this build. Serkan 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Just now, Serkan Sen said: I hope you will enjoy this build. Serkan Oh yes, very yes can't wait! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Alan P said: Oh yes, very yes can't wait! Thanks Alan, I started to add YF-12A model to my "Part 0" topic and in parallel 1:48 "Part 4: Titanium Goose" is ongoing. Fortunately "Part 1" and "Part 2" projects have been almost completed. I hope one day I can finish all these projects... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 Lets start this build with the intake assembly. Here are the parts from kit sprues: One of the inlet duct wall part has defect which is most probably due to trapped air inside the mold. The same problem exist for the port side intake wall at lip area. Also one of the fin root has same defect. This is a shame for Revell as apparently they don't have a QC step before boxing the sprues (right upper): But fortunately I will not use any of these parts. I have partially glued them to build the intake assembly: And here are the exhaust assembly parts: The engine cowling parts were also removed from sprue: All parts were assembled together with masking tape and here is the comparison of kit inlet versus printed one (for my A-12B build) More pictures will follow... Serkan 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 Here is a test shot of nose well which I printed out for A-12B project: It seems that Revell has a bit oversized the bay length. It would be great if someone has a chance to get the right size of one of the nose landing gear doors... Serkan 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Bob Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 It looks like you have been unlucky having some parts not properly formed, the only thing I noticed on my kit was one of the intake spikes had a rounded tip, I have added some plastic so that I can sand it back to a point. The only item of the kit that I am unhappy about is the way the nose RWR antennas have been made, they are just indents on the chine without any raised area where the antenna is supposed to be, it just looks wrong against photos. What do you think Serkan? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Retired Bob said: The only item of the kit that I am unhappy about is the way the nose RWR antennas have been made, they are just indents on the chine without any raised area where the antenna is supposed to be, it just looks wrong against photos. What do you think Serkan? To be honest I haven't checked the rest of the kit yet Bob. But I have found here a discussion that maybe helpful: http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/268117-sr-71-rwr/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
March Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Retired Bob said: It looks like you have been unlucky having some parts not properly formed, the only thing I noticed on my kit was one of the intake spikes had a rounded tip, I have added some plastic so that I can sand it back to a point. The only item of the kit that I am unhappy about is the way the nose RWR antennas have been made, they are just indents on the chine without any raised area where the antenna is supposed to be, it just looks wrong against photos. What do you think Serkan? One of the inlet spikes on the box that I have opened are also rounded. This seems like a potential open goal for some aftermarket company to provide some corrected and 'spikier' parts. @Serkan Sen Thread followed. I'm also up for purchasing parts (whether these be for improving the detail, or allowing the Revell model to be adapted to an A-12 or YF-12) if you are in a position to supply at some point in the future. The Oxcart family of aircraft are my favourite flying machines, so would love the opportunity to go to town on them. Edited January 5, 2022 by March 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, March said: One of the inlet spikes on the box that I have opened has also rounded. Same as mine that can be easily seen in the last image in my third post. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 All main parts were detached from the sprues and brought together using masking tape: And here is the Italeri/Testors kit: And here is the comparison of two kits: Clearly Revell kit has better chine shape (I haven't compared with the real aircraft yet!..) but I am a bit suspicious about the position and dimension of the tertiary doors... Serkan 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Bob Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Thanks for the link to the arc forum Serkan, there were some excellent photos there showing that indeed the Revell kit has RWR antenna that are too skinny. My photos are from the mid 80s, old style 35mm film that has been digitised but they are not as sharp as modern digital photos. A damp airshow day at RAF Mildenhall 1984?, tail number 17980 this was with the hi-vis white markings/insignia. The digitising has made the black underside appear 'frosted' but it wasn't that cold, it was late May. Here is a side shot of the same aircraft. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Bob Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 hours ago, March said: One of the inlet spikes on the box that I have opened are also rounded. This seems like a potential open goal for some aftermarket company to provide some corrected and 'spikier' parts. I did think about using a metal point to improve the inlet cone spike but it would have injured someone, probably me. Here are a couple of photos of the intakes. Notice the bare metal as the spike enters the intake. The next year was sunnier and the aircraft (17958) now had the low viz red codes and insignia. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Retired Bob said: Notice the bare metal as the spike enters the intake. I have recently improved the 3D spike model by adding the rivets and some other details: 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomjw Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) Ooh, I need to follow this. Mind if I pull up a chair? Cheers, Tom. Edited January 5, 2022 by Tomjw Typo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Great! Another SR-71! I'll loiter near the back if I may Best wishes for the build! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 One of the J-58 engine parts were brought together to check the dimensions: According to the reference the actual length of the J-58 engine is 5440 mm which gives 113.35 mm in 1:48 scale. But my digital caliper shows something different... Nearly 10 mm undersized engine is a bit much difference!.. That also explains why assembled exhaust interior looks so strange. I think Revell engineers have decided to give a depth feeling to afterburner can by undersizing the dimensions and using a tapered afterburner can... Serkan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 The intake parts are both in printed and assembled forms: The printed intake assembly will definitely give the model better look: To be able to place new intake the indents at the cowling mouth have to be removed: Also the alignment of intake end was done by removing the core of the kit part: Next step is to test the exhaust assembly. Serkan 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Parts are looking great Serkan. I can see the need for the front wheel well on the Italeri kit. It looked from Alan’s build as though Revell is better, although yours looks another step up. Are the Revell engines intended to be installed or just sat on the base? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 10 hours ago, bar side said: Are the Revell engines intended to be installed or just sat on the base? If I may leap in... Revell supply separate parts for the external display engines and the internal assembly. I don't know if the 'whole' engine assembly will fit the nacelle if you wanted to try it? @Serkan Sen the printed parts are so much better represented! Very cool, and excellent scaling to fit. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 11 hours ago, bar side said: Parts are looking great Serkan. I can see the need for the front wheel well on the Italeri kit. It looked from Alan’s build as though Revell is better, although yours looks another step up. Are the Revell engines intended to be installed or just sat on the base? 48 minutes ago, Alan P said: If I may leap in... Revell supply separate parts for the external display engines and the internal assembly. I don't know if the 'whole' engine assembly will fit the nacelle if you wanted to try it? I was planning to come this point later Here are dry fit test images including J-58 engine: It seems that the engine fits to cowling without any problem (although none of the engine details will be seen) Serkan 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Alan P said: the printed parts are so much better represented! Very cool, and excellent scaling to fit. Thanks Alan. I took some pictures of kit and printed nose wells: I added many interior details to the 3D model and I will post them very soon in "Part 0" WIP: Serkan 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 The nose well 3D model has been updated any ready for test print: Also NLG drag strut door rod has been added to NLG model: The nose well doors will be printed together. It will take around 4 hours to see the results. Serkan 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 Here is the freshly printed nose well: and the comparison of older version and Revell wheel wells together: Serkan 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Yep those wheel well prints look great. It’s not like there isn’t room inside the kit to fit the proper depth 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 24 minutes ago, bar side said: Yep those wheel well prints look great. It’s not like there isn’t room inside the kit to fit the proper depth To be honest I haven't checked yet if the wheel well fits. But in M-21 and A-12B, the second cockpit was placed at Qbay area which should be the case in Blackbird to enable enough room for the rear cockpit. The below drawing is also from my ongoing YF-12A modelling: 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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