Slater Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Not much of a surprise there, I'm guessing. Hope we'll see this helo in 1/48 at some point. https://defense-update.com/20211231_israel-to-get-the-first-of-12-new-ch-53k-helicopters-by-2026.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 5 hours ago, Slater said: Not much of a surprise there What surprises me is that at allegedly close to tripple the price of a Ch-47 the King Stallion is still competitive for the USMC and obviously Israel! Is it so much better/ efficient/....??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slater Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 I believe the CH-53K can carry a heavier payload farther then the Chinook. The "K" can also acommodate a pair of 463L pallets internally, and it's fully marinized for shipboard operations (not sure if CH-47 is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Slater said: I believe the CH-53K can carry a heavier payload farther then the Chinook. The "K" can also acommodate a pair of 463L pallets internally, and it's fully marinized for shipboard operations (not sure if CH-47 is). I know that the RAF ones weren't and it would have been a lot of work if we had to put one down into the hangar deck when on a carrier (removal of 5 blades). As far as I know no other Chinooks are marinised either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slater Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 Germany is apparently proceeding with it's "Schwere Transporthubschrauber" CH-53G replacement effort, and the CH-53K and (I think) CH-47 are both in the running for that competition. The "K" may have an edge since Germany has a long association with the CH-53 series, but overall cost may be an issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Slater said: I believe the CH-53K can carry a heavier payload farther then the Chinook. The "K" can also acommodate a pair of 463L pallets internally, and it's fully marinized for shipboard operations (not sure if CH-47 is). increased payload and range are for sure important for Israel, wasn't the Osprey also considered at one point?. Not so sure about the maritime requirements though! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slater Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 The Israeli military wanted the Osprey but there wasn't money for it, evidently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 12 hours ago, Slater said: The Israeli military wanted the Osprey but there wasn't money for it, evidently. The price range for the K currently is about 100 Mii $US ( down from an unbelievable 130!!!) That is more than for an F-35.... Of course, we do not know what is all included... Wasn't the Osprey already very expensive at about half of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slater Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 Israel requested six aircraft back in 2014, and they were expensive even back then: https://www.dsca.mil/sites/default/files/mas/israel_13-73.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1.13 billion for 6 Osprey aircraft? Wow ... That obviously includes systems and engines... but still! Japan orderd 5 Osprey for 332 million " only" in 2015 https://www.star-telegram.com/ Can it be that Israel had hugely expensive extras installed effectively trippling the price???!!! I would have guessed the airframe and engines were expensive... but already developped MV special ops mission systems adding that much astonishes me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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