dambuster Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 With reference to the Harrier GR1/GR3 and the Sea Harrier FRS1 - is the wheelbase between the nose u/c and main u/c the same? ( Or the distance between the two undercarriage leg mounting points?) Doing some research into a potential kit bash between an ancient Tamiya FRS1 and the unused FA2 parts in the Kinetic GR3 and have discovered that the Tamiya nose wheel bay appears to be ~5mm too far back. (Compared to the Kinetic GR 3 fuselage.) Can anyone confirm that the two should be the same? Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Is yhe Tamia Sea Harrier to scale? I thought it had some issues.. not only age .. Probably not enough for 5mm discrepancy though! Sorry, I do not have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever219 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) The Sea Harrier FRS. 1 was a minimum-change development of the Harrier GR 3 so the undercarriage mounting points would be in the same relative positions to and distances from each other. The Sea Harrier FA. 2 was modified slightly; there's a stretch in the rear fuselage but I can't remember if it's ahead of or aft of the main undercarriage bay. Edited December 30, 2021 by stever219 Mi trypinng iz shokkin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossington 2 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Aft. I won't affect the measurement. Re-tread Harriers differ in this area to new builds. Some aircraft have a 'boxy' transition compared to the more 'faired-in' type. Sorry, but I don't have the registrations to hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 The only thing I have is this, I know the out riggers are in the 'wrong' place but the maim wheels will be the same. It's funny there is nothing in my Harrier AP's or the AV.8A T.O. that have the same information, strange! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 @dambuster I've found something better. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dambuster Posted December 29, 2021 Author Share Posted December 29, 2021 @canberra kid Thanks, comparing your drawing measurement with the SAM Datafile 1/48 Sea Harrier plan gives the same measurement which fits with my belief that the Sea Harrier FRS1 did not change the basic geometry of the GR1/3 airframe behind the cockpit. And this would confirm that the Tamiya nose gear is too far back. Peter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junchan Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) According to Harrier (fully updated edition) by Francis K. Mason, the wheel base of the Harrier G.R. 1, G.R. 3, AV-8A and Sea Harrier FRS. 1 are the same, 11 ft. 5 in. The diagram below is from KF Famous Aircraft of the World No. 47. Jun in Tokyo https://www.flickr.com/photos/horaburo/albums Edited December 30, 2021 by Junchan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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