Paul Bradley Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 All it means is that the type in question had less than 192 units built before June 1940 - it could also mean that a total of 5 were built by January 1920... As we've learned from their last game, be careful about being too literal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfman Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 OK it’s not the La-9/11 (still hoping and praying). First guess :-Caudron C.714. Wulfman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) There is Caudron 714 old Heller kit and recently a new one was by RS. So on the market no looking for it. I voted (after todays clues) for Fairey Fox, which will be a couple to Belgian Renard R 31. It was on my wish list I suggested to Gilles some time ago.... So I do hope I am right Regards J-W Edited December 16, 2021 by JWM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather Kay Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Just now, JWM said: I voted (after todays clues) for Fairey Fox, which will be a couple to Belgian Renar R 31. Ooh! That would be nice. I also hope you’re right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Mikolajski Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Paul Bradley said: All it means is that the type in question had less than 192 units built before June 1940 - it could also mean that a total of 5 were built by January 1920... As we've learned from their last game, be careful about being too literal! Indeed. With all these clues we have hundreds of aircraft to choose from. Basically all we know is that its production started before June 1940 and this a/c probably took part in the WWII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 If I understand this sentence correctly, it could even mean that the first prototype was built in 1948 Did the MiG-21 exist in the amount of 192 pieces before June 1940? Definitely not! Luckily, it is ruled out by a wingspan of above 8.5 m. The only planes excluded for this formulation are the Spad XIII or the Hurricane (and hundreds of similar ones), which were built in excess of 192 prior to June 1940. Cheers Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 2 hours ago, JWM said: I voted (after todays clues) for Fairey Fox, Hmmm - I have look for this data in net and found, that the solely Belgian Foxes (different marks) were produced in series of 195 plus what was produced in UK... Seems to be definitely more than 192, however maybe it is referring to given mark (variant)? We will see. Regards J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Mikolajski Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Since the hints don't point to anything specific, my bet is on a Curtiss SBC-4 Helldiver. I don't know if the different versions come into play, but this one at least meets all the conditions. D0.1 More difficult to guess than the Battle (less known!) - Certainly less known, than Fairey Battle D0.2 Was the « last one ... » - The last military biplane ordered by the US Navy D1.1 Was involved in a major conflict - Yep, Marines used them for anti-submarine patrols on Samoa in 1942 D1.2 Built at less than 192 units before June 1940 - Before June 1940 only 174 units of SBC-4 variant were built D1.3 Wingspan : more than 8,50 m - TBH it's hard to find an aircraft with a wingspan of less than 8,50 m From my point of view, some kind of connection with France is also important. The more than 40 years since the release of the last two kits - Heller and Matchbox - may also be a clue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) My one and only guess Blackburn Skua. Wiki shows exactly 192 produced. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackburn_Skua Edited December 17, 2021 by Corsairfoxfouruncle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN-KEH Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 26 minutes ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: My one and only guess Blackburn Skua. Wiki shows exactly 192 produced. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackburn_Skua The Skua has been kitted by Special Hobby in 1/72 and 1/48 and has no French/Belgian/Romanian connection. I have more belief in Piotrs Curtiss SBC-4 Helldiver suggestion - with its French connection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptarmigan Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 20 hours ago, Paul Bradley said: All it means is that the type in question had less than 192 units built before June 1940 - it could also mean that a total of 5 were built by January 1920... As we've learned from their last game, be careful about being too literal! Actually the opposite. You have to take every sentence literally. "Built at less than 192 units before June 1940" - by May 30, 1940, between 0 and 191 units have been built. The production either a) might have finished by then, or b) hasn't started yet, or c) <192 were produced before the date, and some unspecified number later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 13 hours ago, Piotr Mikolajski said: TBH it's hard to find an aircraft with a wingspan of less than 8,50 m A Caudron C. 690 for instance... Regards J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Fairey IIIF. Plus one in 1/32! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Mikolajski Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Game over for France and Rest of the World already but here are next clues. D2.1 Kit never released in injected, in any scale (to our knowledge, according to Scalemates) D2.2 Piloted by at least one Pole D2.3 Biplane Fighter This fits to Blériot-SPAD S.510, last French biplane fighter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Piotr Mikolajski said: This fits to Blériot-SPAD S.510, last French biplane fighter. It is also very nice choice! I hope Fairey Fox will be next... It could be interesting, that on 9th May 2020 I wrote to Mr Gilles Fontaine among some other types of my not very long list of my wishes and dreams on models to-be-released in 1/72 I proposed Spad 510 and his answer was "Maybe" ... Cheers J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 The guy who had a tantrum about the Battle might tell you that a 1/72 model of the Bleriot-SPAD 510 is available. You do have to download and print it yourself though. https://www.cgtrader.com/free-3d-models/aircraft/historic/bleriot-spad-s-510 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Mikolajski Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 35 minutes ago, Ed Russell said: The guy who had a tantrum about the Battle might tell you that a 1/72 model of the Bleriot-SPAD 510 is available. You do have to download and print it yourself though. https://www.cgtrader.com/free-3d-models/aircraft/historic/bleriot-spad-s-510 "Kit never released in injected" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thompson Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 The Blériot-SPAD S.510 is quite a good-looking aircraft! If that's not the correct answer, it should be! John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, John Thompson said: The Blériot-SPAD S.510 is quite a good-looking aircraft! If that's not the correct answer, it should be! I'll second that. It's one fine looking aeroplane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Piotr Mikolajski said: "Kit never released in injected" Ahh but the guy will tell you 3D resin is injected through a nozzle.🤣 Certainly does look an attractive subject, especially in WW2 guise. Good item for those that build "aircraft that were in WW2 but should not have been"! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trenton guy Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 Did not Hit-Kit release a very rough injected molded Bleriot 510? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Trenton guy said: Did not Hit-Kit release a very rough injected molded Bleriot 510? Not quite so. Hit-Kit released Spad 61 and Spad 81, while the original designation of Spad 510 prototypes was Spad 91. Cheers Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Mikolajski Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 There is no direct answer, but hints are explained: D0.1 More difficult to guess than the Battle (less known!) - Well - not sure ... that was FAST D0.2 Was the « last one ... » - Last biplane fighter in armée de l'Air D1.1 Was involved in a major conflict - WWII, GARC II/561 Le Havre and DIAP, Lyon D1.2 Built at less than 192 units before June 1940 - Serie of 60 aircraft D1.3 Wingspan : more than 8,50 m - 8,84 ... D2.1 Kit never released in injected, in any scale (to our knowledge, according to Scalemates) D2.2 Piloted by at least one Pole - DIAP Lyon-Corbas D2.3 Biplane Fighter - as written above .... So... Blériot-SPAD S.510. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Holden Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 I won the competition and surprisingly, had the first correct answer. The 'last SPAD' was the subject of some great articles in the French 'Avions' mag a few years back and I always thought it was a natural for Azur to do.... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Mikolajski Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Roger Holden said: I won the competition and surprisingly, had the first correct answer. Congratulations! After the first hints I had no idea what it could be, the list of potential candidates was far too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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