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23 minutes ago, Rich75 said:

Thanks Jon, you're very kind,

This is what I was looking to fit in the director tower. Not sure what it is I'm afraid perhaps someone will enlighten me now, but it is visible in photos 

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Green, Allan C. 1878-1954 photographer.

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[ca. 1900-ca. 1954]

State Library Victoria 

 

Hi Rich

I've blown this pic up to a large size and I'm sorry - I have no idea.  Tempting to think it's some sought of sighting/optical device??

Rob

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5 minutes ago, robgizlu said:

 

Hi Rich

I've blown this pic up to a large size and I'm sorry - I have no idea.  Tempting to think it's some sought of sighting/optical device??

Rob

Hi Rob, thanks for looking, I think that under the tower is a charthouse and above, all manner of radar and electrical equipment, pics of the opposite side are really difficult to make out, but given the amount of detection equipment around sounds like a good shout👍🏻

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The inside of the HACS base is filed under "mysterious" on my end (for now). But it might be as simple as some water tank (2nd pic is Anson).

 

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4 hours ago, foeth said:

The inside of the HACS base is filed under "mysterious" on my end (for now). But it might be as simple as some water tank (2nd pic is Anson).

 

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Thank you for sharing these pics, the unknown item seems to be present across the class.

They show off some great details don't they,  the one of Anson is great but sad as well, I believe its taken at the breakers....

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7 hours ago, bissyboat said:

Great attention to detail. No doubt that boat modelers have patience like a saint.

But not always the language of a saint. 😁

 

But yes @Rich75, certainly great detail here. Regards, Jeff.

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6 hours ago, ArnoldAmbrose said:

But not always the language of a saint. 😁

 

But yes @Rich75, certainly great detail here. Regards, Jeff.

You're not wrong there Jeff, more than a few " ooh that's annoying" in not so many words!

Mainly four letter ones actually 

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3 hours ago, craigo said:

some great looking work, i really love the structure supports. how did you make them? i think i would like to include them on my build. 

 

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Thank you, no problem.

For  most of them I used 1x .25 evergreen strips. You need to measure were you plan to fit them for the height and depth first though.Mark the length you need on the strip and cut off, leaving (usually) a rectangular piece, then cut that in half from opposite corner to corner leaving you with two triangular pieces. I needed a few different depths so I had to cut some strips first but i hope you get the idea.I can post some pictures if you like,not sure if I explained that too well, I am away at the moment, but when I'm back no problem. I should add that @robgizlu kindly gave me the knowledge first, so it's his fault I've ended up cutting hundreds of them out since!

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18 minutes ago, Rich75 said:

Thank you, no problem.

For  most of them I used 1x .25 evergreen strips. You need to measure were you plan to fit them for the height and depth first though.Mark the length you need on the strip and cut off, leaving (usually) a rectangular piece, then cut that in half from opposite corner to corner leaving you with two triangular pieces. I needed a few different depths so I had to cut some strips first but i hope you get the idea.I can post some pictures if you like,not sure if I explained that too well, I am away at the moment, but when I'm back no problem. I should add that @robgizlu kindly gave me the knowledge first, so it's his fault I've ended up cutting hundreds of them out since!

I think you explained well enough, i will give it a go thanks alot. do you happen to know what the box shaped thing attached to bottom of the forward mast is? I want to include as much detail as possible but don't really have any idea what it could be. I think i will try and post my progress on mine tomorrow!

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9 hours ago, craigo said:

I think you explained well enough, i will give it a go thanks alot. do you happen to know what the box shaped thing attached to bottom of the forward mast is? I want to include as much detail as possible but don't really have any idea what it could be. I think i will try and post my progress on mine tomorrow!

No problem, as far as I know that is the RDF office at the bottom of the mast, I may be corrected on that. Look forward to seeing your build too, good luck with it.

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3 hours ago, Rich75 said:

No problem, as far as I know that is the RDF office at the bottom of the mast, I may be corrected on that. Look forward to seeing your build too, good luck with it.

On HMS PoW's plans, it's marked as No 2 W/T office; No4 is on the same floor but within the bridge structure, No5 5 below 4, No3 on the admiral's bridge, No 1 in the aft directors platform. IIRC, when the radar operators requested an actual office they were met with some bemusement as they had so many offices already.

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6 hours ago, foeth said:

On HMS PoW's plans, it's marked as No 2 W/T office; No4 is on the same floor but within the bridge structure, No5 5 below 4, No3 on the admiral's bridge, No 1 in the aft directors platform. IIRC, when the radar operators requested an actual office they were met with some bemusement as they had so many offices already.

How many do you need? sort of response I would imagine! Thanks for clearing that up, I'm sure it's in one of my books at home

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Hi all, while I've been working through the etch part in the eduard sets I kept looking at the oerlikons and couldn't get over the fact they would be sort of square when I put them together. Somehow I found myself on the Micromasters site (again!) and a few clicks and a week or two later these little chaps turned up!

Quite a lot of these:

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Not as many of these twin mounts

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These also found their way into the box

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And finally these 

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Which aren't weapons at all but do look rather cool, you can even make out the lettering them! I think these make nice additions but leaves me in a dilemma regards the pom-poms and bofors, she carries enough guns for several destroyers I think:o I hope to have more work to show you soon, so as ever thanks for looking in, 

 

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Hi all, I have been working on KGV adding some small details where I can, I'll share those shortly as they seem to take forever!  In the meantime I would like to ask for some help from the very knowledgeable collective if I could please? Could you tell me what the antennas circled in the following picture are so I can get my head around what I'm looking at?

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Allan C Green

State Library Victoria 

As far as I can tell KGV had type 279 radar replaced with 279b at her 1944 refit , 279 was separate transmitter and reciever on fore and mainmasts, 279b a single transceiver, is that right or am I talking nonsense? In the picture are the aerials right at the top the 279b, are they something else,or is it all those circled ? 

A while ago @foeth kindly pointed me in the right direction for Derek Howse's book radar at sea, as soon as funds allow i will get copy.  If anyone can advise that would be great

PREPARATIONS FOR NORWEGIAN OPERATIONS. OCTOBER 1941, ON BOARD THE DESTROYER HMS BEDOUIN. HMS VICTORIOUS AND HMS KING GEORGE V ALONG WITH ESCORTING DESTROYERS DURING SEVERAL DAYS OF PREPARATION FOR NORWEGIAN OPERATIONS.

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This picture is from Oct 1941 and shows both masts in the earlier configuration, the foremast changed quite a lot after the later refit and the 279 was removed from it, but the mainmast doesn't appear that different (at the top at least) apart from the extra aerials in the later picture ?  

As ever, thanks for looking in 

 

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41 minutes ago, Rich75 said:

Hi all, I have been working on KGV adding some small details where I can, I'll share those shortly as they seem to take forever!  In the meantime I would like to ask for some help from the very knowledgeable collective if I could please? Could you tell me what the antennas circled in the following picture are so I can get my head around what I'm looking at?

 

 

That's the type 279; the fwd aerial was indeed removed so it's possible the unit was upgraded from a transmitter/receiver (two aerials, one per mast head) to a single transceiver set? (I'm on a french beach some distance from my Howse copy so cannot check... ;) ). There's also a smaller IFF antenna above the type 279. I have an ancient post with old info here when I was trying to sort out aerials too...

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EJ has covered it. 

Mk 1 Designs do a British Radar photo-etch set that includes it

 

Rich I found this very helpful:

 

https://www.davecov.org/modelling/reference/airfixmagazinearticles/warships/pdfs/Airfix_Magazine_Annual_2_Radar_in_the_Royal_Navy.pdf

 

And Kudos and THANKS to @davecov for making this available.  It's one of many interesting maritime related articles

.......and don't those details take forever!!

Rob

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10 hours ago, foeth said:

That's the type 279; the fwd aerial was indeed removed so it's possible the unit was upgraded from a transmitter/receiver (two aerials, one per mast head) to a single transceiver set? (I'm on a french beach some distance from my Howse copy so cannot check... ;) ). There's also a smaller IFF antenna above the type 279. I have an ancient post with old info here when I was trying to sort out aerials too...

Thank you, I  really appreciate this, that link is very interesting, I was trying to work out the difference between 279 and 279b, so the b suffix denotes a single mast fitment, which explains the removal from the foremast of the other aerial. The picture of the 279 with 243 IFF on top looks pretty much to be what I can see in the Allan C Green photo, so it looks like I need to try and make one :o sadly it seems the links to the navy radar museum are broken, or at least on my phone, enjoy your time on the beach, sounds great 👍🏻 

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10 hours ago, robgizlu said:

EJ has covered it. 

Mk 1 Designs do a British Radar photo-etch set that includes it

 

Rich I found this very helpful:

 

https://www.davecov.org/modelling/reference/airfixmagazinearticles/warships/pdfs/Airfix_Magazine_Annual_2_Radar_in_the_Royal_Navy.pdf

 

And Kudos and THANKS to @davecov for making this available.  It's one of many interesting maritime related articles

.......and don't those details take forever!!

Rob

Thanks Rob, you sort of read my mind! I have the mk1set, as you say it has the 279 ,that's what got my tiny mind wondering what the difference was between that and the b version. Turns out, visually, not a lot except the absence of the other aerial !

And thank you for posting that link I have printed it off and read a couple of times now and also @davecov for sharing it. Great stuff

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Small update to share, I made a start on the masts, there's a lot of parts to add from the eduard set but I tried to improve on the W/T office at the bottom of the foremast first, 

Here's the kit items

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These are the parts I added to try and make it a bit more interesting 

 

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 I believe the chimney looking object to be a type of aerial screen? It's quite prominent in pictures of KGV so I thought i should try to replicate it, hopefully It looks a bit better now,

As ever thanks for looking in

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