RidgeRunner Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Hi all, Does anyone out there know where I can get a set of these (with pylons)? Thanks a lot. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f111guru Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, RidgeRunner said: Hi all, Does anyone out there know where I can get a set of these (with pylons)? Thanks a lot. Martin Martin, I may have a set from an old Hasegawa MIG-23 and MIG-27. Will be a few days due to not being back home yet. All The Best, Ron VanDerwarker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 That would be fantastic! Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob de Bie Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 The Hasegawa (or Academy clone) MiG-27 centerline tank is almost correct for the PTB-800 wing tank. Except that the ends are slightly too pointy, and it does not have fins. So you need two MiG-27 kits if you want wing tanks on your MiG-23. Altenatively Pavla sells a Su-17/22 drop tank set with two PTB-800s. The Pavla tanks are 8 mm longer than 4+ MiG-23 drawings, diameter is OK, nose and rear are more pointed. Photos confirm that the real tanks are more blunt in shape. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 Thank you Rob @Rob de BieThat would be fantastic! Thank you. . I’m sorry Ron @f111guru but it looks like your offer won’t help me. I appreciate your offer, though. Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob de Bie Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, RidgeRunner said: Thank you Rob @Rob de BieThat would be fantastic! Thank you. . Uhm... Sounds like you interpreted my posting as if I would be able to send you the required tanks. That is not the case - I need them for my own MiG-23 model. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 No, Rob. Not at all. I meant that solution would be fantastic. I have Pavla tanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob de Bie Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) I have to disappoint you: my earlier statement that the Pavla Su 17/22 set would yield the correct tanks is incorrect. I just checked the 4+ booklets on the MiG-23 and Su-17/22, and both show 'PTB-800' tanks. I thought that would mean they are identical, but no, they are different. The Pavla set agrees with the Su-17/22 drawings, that's something. But the shape is just too far off for the MiG-23 tanks. Back to the MiG-27 kit centerline tanks, or start with another tank from the spare parts box, with a diameter of approximately 7.7 mm. Rob Edited November 26, 2021 by Rob de Bie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob de Bie Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Just to be clear, the Hasegawa and Academy MiG-27 kits have a sprue with two wing tanks and one centerline tank. But the wing tanks are anemic, at 6.9 mm diameter. The centerline tanks matches the 4+ drawing much better at 7.8 mm diameter. The difference is 13% in diameter, but 28% in cross section, and I think we 'see' the latter. Hence my strong preference for using two centerline tanks, with modified shapes at the ends and simple flat fins. The runner with the tanks can be seen in this BM thread: Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 Thank you, Rob. That saved me a lot of work :). I will think a bit about it before deciding what to do. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverkite Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 1/72 tank comparison could also be found on Scale Models dot RU forums, it was hidden somewhere on Mig-23 RV discussions so you have to go back to 6 years ago in time Luigi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Eduards 1/72nd MiG-21 contains a PTB-800 as well. Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 20 hours ago, Hook said: Eduards 1/72nd MiG-21 contains a PTB-800 as well. Cheers, Andre It does, but that is the centreline tank. The wing tanks are a different shape Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, RidgeRunner said: It does, but that is the centreline tank. The wing tanks are a different shape Ah!, I know but I was thrown off by Robs comment: On 11/26/2021 at 7:20 PM, Rob de Bie said: Hence my strong preference for using two centerline tanks Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, Hook said: Ah!, I know but I was thrown off by Robs comment: Cheers, Andre I agree, Andre. I was confused too because of the differences between the centreline PTB-800 and those on the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 30 minutes ago, RidgeRunner said: I agree, Andre. I was confused too because of the differences between the centreline PTB-800 and those on the wings. I read it as "the centerline tank has a better resemblance to the real wing tanks than the Hase / Aca wing tanks". Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f111guru Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 On 11/26/2021 at 8:28 AM, RidgeRunner said: Thank you Rob @Rob de BieThat would be fantastic! Thank you. . I’m sorry Ron @f111guru but it looks like your offer won’t help me. I appreciate your offer, though. Martin Not a problem Martin. We do what we need to do to get where we like the finished kit. All The Best, Ron 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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