TLC - Transports, Loaders and Carriers Chat

[Mjwomack]

13 hours ago, bootneck said:

Hello Robert,

yes, I did an LST 2 dio in 1:350 scale, then an Pontoon pier in 1:144 scale.    This time, I plan to go large and do the bridge span to 1:35 scale.  With so many british softskins available at 1:35 scale nowadays, I'd like to do a setting with one or two trucks on the bridge.  Unfortunately, due to the size of the bridge span at 1:35 scale, over 2½ feet [80+ CM] and my workbench only being 4 feet, then I will only be able to manage one bridge span.

 

cheers,
Mike

Will this be another 3d printing masterclass?

[bootneck]

Hi Michael,

 

As most of this consists of flat sided pieces, I think most components will be cut from styrene sheet.  I will draw the pieces using Inkscape ready to be cut on my cutting machine.

 

cheers,
Mike

[Stickframe]

Hello model builders, 

 

This looks like a fun project - with all sorts of interesting models being built.  I'm just about to start a vehicle called an RG-33 SOCOM AUV.  It is a modern 6x6 truck, which includes a 4 person cab and a flatbed.  The idea is to start with a model of an RG-31 MK5, which is a 4x4, and do a fairly major conversion, making it into the 6x6 variant.  This is the desired vehicle:

 

 

And this is what I'll start with:

 

 

Both units are shown with a rooftop weapons system, the RG-33 is shown with a remote weapon station, and the RG 31 with a gunner's position, but I certainly don't need to add either.  As I understand it, the RG-33  is intended to carry troops and gear, and is not an assault vehicle.  

 

I built one of these before, but I think my model building skills have since improved, so I want to do a better job.  In addition to the RG-31 donor kit, I will use an M1083, which is a 6x6 for some of the suspension and bed parts.  I've located my old research, and realize, this: a) might not work, and b), will be a handful to try! But, I am going to go for it anyway.

 

Is this project ok for this group build?  Please let me know.

 

Cheers

Nick 

 

[JeroenS]

Great, looks like a modern M35. We're building a couple of those in the GB so I see no problems with this build but we'll let @robert stuart have the final say.

[Robert Stuart]

@Stickframe, as @JeroenS says, your suggested build will be fine.
Provided the vehicle's primary role is transporting, loading, or carrying, then it is OK here.

[Stickframe]

@Robert Stuart, as I noted in my inquiry, "As I understand it, the RG-33 (AUV) is intended to carry troops and gear, and is not an assault vehicle", but as you underlined  in your reply, the key qualification to participate in this build, is that the "primary role is transporting, loading, or carrying".  So a guy went ahead and looked up the mission of the vehicle and found this:

 

 

I don't know, beyond what is noted above, what SOCOM might consider the role of an armored utility vehicle (AUV) which "enhance(s) SOCOM operations" to be, as it includes a remote weapon system (CROWS), which I suppose could be used offensively or defensively.  

 

As this is ambiguous, I guess I'll sit this one out, and go ahead with the project separately.

 

Cheers

Nick 

 

 

 

[Paul821]

As we already have part of a mulberry harbour in this GB would this Grain Silo

 

https://scalescenes.com/product/t037-low-relief-grain-silo/

 

be eligible? It certainly is a "loader" and involved in transport and carrying grain!

 

 

[Robert Stuart]

40 minutes ago, Paul821 said:

As we already have part of a mulberry harbour in this GB would this Grain Silo

 

https://scalescenes.com/product/t037-low-relief-grain-silo/

 

be eligible? It certainly is a "loader" and involved in transport and carrying grain!

 

 

🤣 Yah, it fits the criteria.  Go ahead.

 

 

[Robert Stuart]

1 hour ago, Stickframe said:

@Robert Stuart, as I noted in my inquiry, "As I understand it, the RG-33 (AUV) is intended to carry troops and gear, and is not an assault vehicle", but as you underlined  in your reply, the key qualification to participate in this build, is that the "primary role is transporting, loading, or carrying".  So a guy went ahead and looked up the mission of the vehicle and found this:

 

 

I don't know, beyond what is noted above, what SOCOM might consider the role of an armored utility vehicle (AUV) which "enhance(s) SOCOM operations" to be, as it includes a remote weapon system (CROWS), which I suppose could be used offensively or defensively.  

 

As this is ambiguous, I guess I'll sit this one out, and go ahead with the project separately.

 

Cheers

Nick 

 

 

 

Nick
I'm happy for you to build that here.

[Stickframe]

Hi @Robert Stuart, thanks for the "OK" - I hope to start the kit in the next few days, and will open a build thread soon. 

 

Cheers

Nick 

[Giorgio N]

Quick question on eligibility: guess transport helicopters would be eligible... what about a bog standard UH-60? Afterall this is pretty much mainly a battle cab for air cavalry so should be mainly a transport. Have one of these in the stash and I thought this GB may be a good excuse to build it...

[Robert Stuart]

5 hours ago, Giorgio N said:

Quick question on eligibility: guess transport helicopters would be eligible...

Yes

 

5 hours ago, Giorgio N said:

what about a bog standard UH-60?

Quote

The Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk is a four-blade, twin-engine, medium-lift utility military helicopter manufactured by Sikorsky Aircraft. Sikorsky submitted the S-70 design for the United States Army's Utility Tactical Transport Aircraft System (UTTAS) competition in 1972.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_UH-60_Black_Hawk

In its tactical transport role, a Black Hawk will be fine.  Some of the more specialist roles might rule out a few machines, but the standard machines will be fine.

[MRMRL]

Since there's plenty of time left, how about adding an actual loader, I'm assuming that's acceptable, might even carry it on the M747...

[Robert Stuart]

1 hour ago, MRMRL said:

Since there's plenty of time left, how about adding an actual loader, I'm assuming that's acceptable, might even carry it on the M747...

Yes! That will do nicely

[Cklasse]

Can I join this GB with an in progress B747? I started the kit last year but stalled after completing the fuselage and wings. The outstanding work are scratch building the leading edge Krueger slats, landing gears, painting and mounting on a base.

[Robert Stuart]

15 hours ago, Cklasse said:

Can I join this GB with an in progress B747? I started the kit last year but stalled after completing the fuselage and wings. The outstanding work are scratch building the leading edge Krueger slats, landing gears, painting and mounting on a base.

Looks as though there's a lot of work still to do? That should be OK.

[Cklasse]

1 hour ago, Robert Stuart said:

Looks as though there's a lot of work still to do? That should be OK.

Great! I could start a new topic in this GB but that will mean there are 2 in progress topics of the same subject in this forum.  
 

B747-400

[JeroenS]

5 hours ago, Cklasse said:

Great! I could start a new topic in this GB but that will mean there are 2 in progress topics of the same subject in this forum.  
 

B747-400

@Enzo the MagnificentWould you please move the aforementioned WIP thread to the TLC GB? 

 

@Cklasse That should solve it!

[Enzo the Magnificent]

7 hours ago, JeroenS said:

@Enzo the MagnificentWould you please move the aforementioned WIP thread to the TLC GB? 

 

@Cklasse That should solve it!

 

Done!

[Robert Stuart]

18 hours ago, Cklasse said:

there are 2 in progress topics of the same subject in this forum

Doesn't matter, there will be enough differences, and that, in itself, will be of interest.

[klr]

I see no helicopters in the build list. I can't see any reason why helicopters would be verboten, as long as their primary mission is to transport people (troops or civilians) and/or cargo??

[Robert Stuart]

1 hour ago, klr said:

I see no helicopters in the build list. I can't see any reason why helicopters would be verboten, as long as their primary mission is to transport people (troops or civilians) and/or cargo??

Yes, helicopters would do nicely, Chinook or Huey/Iroquois spring to mind as options.
It's harder to think of excluded helicopters (e.g. Cobra, Mil Mi-24/Hind) than eligible types.

[klr]

4 minutes ago, Robert Stuart said:

Yes, helicopters would do nicely, Chinook or Huey/Iroquois spring to mind as options.
It's harder to think of excluded helicopters (e.g. Cobra, Mil Mi-24/Hind) than eligible types.

Thanks, I have a number of suitable choppers to hand: A Revell Bell/Dornier UH-1D (more akin to a UH-1H), an Italeri (ex-ESCI) UH-1D, an Italeri MH-60K Blackhawk, and an old Airfix SA.330 Puma. My preference is for the Blackhawk.

[klr]

For the build list, I've just started two threads, one for the Hobbycraft DHC-2 Beaver, the other for the Italeri MH-60K Blackhawk (the first chopper in the build!):

 

 

[rob Lyttle]

Here's the thing, team leaders.... 

As you know I've built a Scammel Scarab - more or less a little diorama. In the gallery already 👍

But I've added another Scarab build in the wip, just because I liked it. It's nearly finished..... Oh and also a Bedford QL fuel lorry, because I think I've caught some kind of bug...... 

What is the form, bearing in mind there's only one wip.? 

Do I update my gallery pictures, or can I stick another gallery entry on for the second Scarab?? Or the Bedford if I get it done? 

Sorry to mess with the system, I hadn't really thought this through.... 🤔