JohnT Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, Duncan B said: Not so much as you thought. Duncan B possible future use as a ground instruction airframe? Right chaps. Lesson 1. Before flight remove all these red plastic things and tags 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 28 minutes ago, Duncan B said: Not so much as you thought. Indeed! Return to service in six months then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaceAddict Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) Wow... that definitely looks "more or less intact". Impressive. P.S. Will shadowy figures in black suits be showing up at my door now that I've seen that photo? Edited January 20, 2022 by RaceAddict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 5 hours ago, JohnT said: Right chaps. Lesson 1. Before flight remove all these red plastic things and tags Any more on this? Isn't it just just a bit of idle gossip really? I'd be very surprised if this turned out to be the cause. Very unlikely that nobody noticed a big red cover/tag. There are so many checks and double checks carried out to catch this sort of thing. Ground crew, plane captain, pilot, senior maintenance rating, duty pilot, engineering officer, aircraft handlers, firesuitman etc. All standing around watching the start up, power checks etc etc etc. Nobody noticed? It might be fun to take the pee (luckily no one was hurt) but I'll eat my hat if it's true. ( a small tasty one ) Disclaimer; I know it has happened in the past (thereby completely undermining myself I know) but I'd still be surprised on this occasion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 38 minutes ago, RaceAddict said: P.S. Will shadowy figures in black suits be showing up at my door now that I've seen that photo? Quite likely. Or at least at the door of the owner of that camera/phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I'm not seeing a tag anywhere, or do you mean the left gear leg as we look at the photo? I thought that was shackles that run to the chains that are holding it down? It must have been a pretty soft landing if it's that close to intact. Have I missed the description of the crash along the way, or is it still under wraps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mike said: I'm not seeing a tag anywhere, or do you mean the left gear leg as we look at the photo? I thought that was shackles that run to the chains that are holding it down? It must have been a pretty soft landing if it's that close to intact. Have I missed the description of the crash along the way, or is it still under wraps? Hi Mike, the Remove Before Flight was, I understand, a big cover left on. The aircraft accelerated slowly down the deck, staggered up the ski-jump at the end of the deck, then the pilot banged out as the aircraft fell off the front of the ship and splashed/belly-flopped into the water at minimal speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Here's a link to picture of an F-35 with it's engine intake covers fitted: http://aircraftcovers.com/F35#19 Fairly hard to miss them, I should think! I've not seen any pictures of a cover on the upper fuselage intake for the lift fan, but as these have their own door's I suspect they don't have ground handling blanks/covers. I rest my case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweeky Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 39 minutes ago, Smudge said: Here's a link to picture of an F-35 with it's engine intake covers fitted: http://aircraftcovers.com/F35#19 Fairly hard to miss them, I should think! I've not seen any pictures of a cover on the upper fuselage intake for the lift fan, but as these have their own door's I suspect they don't have ground handling blanks/covers. I rest my case 1 Link doesn't work 2 i have it on good authority that there was a blank left in situ. 3 only time will tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said: staggered up the ski-jump at the end of the deck, then the pilot banged out That's putting it mildly! It barely made it up! It probably would have been better if it had rolled back TBH, but then we're looking at where it goes and what it sets on fire. I'd have expected the ship to run it over, as don't they usually run downwind at a fair lick to give the aircraft more wind over its wings on the way out? Must have got lucky, as the repair bill would be pretty high for a ship running over a sinking F-35 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 hours ago, tweeky said: 2 i have it on good authority that there was a blank left in situ. Me too. But that's only half right... I wish I could say more, because the general incredulity is excruciating to read when you know what happened. You will honestly feel sorry for the blokes when it comes out 😔 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnT Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Alan P said: Me too. But that's only half right... I wish I could say more, because the general incredulity is excruciating to read when you know what happened. But you know how it is. My original post was of course made in jest and not to be taken seriously. The report on the accident will no doubt reveal all in due course. You can take the press reports with a shovel of salt. The good news was pilot safe and now airframe recovered and presumably of some future use as well as removed from prying eyes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, tweeky said: 1 Link doesn't work 2 i have it on good authority that there was a blank left in situ. 3 only time will tell. Hi @tweeky thanks for the feedback. 1. Works fine for me (but I'll post a picture Credit USAF, so I should be safe). 2. This is what I mean by gossip. I don't mean to be offensive, so I hope you wont be offended, but it's just hearsay. I was asking if anything official had been released yet. If this was the case then surely the post-mortem would be done and dusted fairly swiftly, and it would be public knowledge. 3. It will indeed (and I'll eat my hat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, Smudge said: 3. It will indeed (and I'll eat my hat) I hope your hat is 1. Edible 2. Digestible 3. Please post a video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I refer you to my previous comment...... 3 hours ago, Smudge said: .....................I'll eat my hat if it's true. ( a small tasty one ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSG0 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I expect that the people involved know how many impact G's it took when it hit the water and what that means for the main components, but I am thinking mainly of saltwater corrosion/damage, especially the bits that may not be so easy to get to or take apart. F-22 rebuild https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/43613/incredible-images-of-stripped-down-f-22-raptor-being-rebuilt-after-belly-landing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagRigger Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) It’s been in the Oggin - it’s CAT 5 Edited January 20, 2022 by JagRigger 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 30 minutes ago, Alan P said: 3. Please post a video I'm quietly confident it won't come to that........................ Famous last words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Smudge said: I refer you to my previous comment...... 'Guv I swear, I always wear this pasty as a hat' 😂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 ³ be very surprised if this turned out to be the cause. Very unlikely that nobody noticed a big red cover/tag So it goes the blank was removed and kinda left in the intake whilst taking other blanks off .....then another jet launched and blew it down the intake hence why it was mussed. Although why it wasnt counted who knows. Classic swiss cheese .....failure to follow process .....if indeed there was a process..we will see 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 19 hours ago, Mike said: That's putting it mildly! It barely made it up! It probably would have been better if it had rolled back TBH, but then we're looking at where it goes and what it sets on fire. I'd have expected the ship to run it over, as don't they usually run downwind at a fair lick to give the aircraft more wind over its wings on the way out? Must have got lucky, as the repair bill would be pretty high for a ship running over a sinking F-35 Angled flight deck Mike ...not much but enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 1/20/2022 at 6:52 PM, JagRigger said: It’s been in the Oggin - it’s CAT 5 Absolutely, seawater and electronics, aluminium and all the rest don’t play nicely together. It’s capoot and only fit for the fire dump. Duncan B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Duncan B said: Absolutely, seawater and electronics, aluminium and all the rest don’t play nicely together. It’s capoot and only fit for the fire dump. Duncan B Not with all the MMF its not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 16 hours ago, junglierating said: Not with all the MMF its not True enough, it'll poison half of Suffolk if they set a match to it!! Duncan B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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