Mountain goat Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) I had wanted to say Alpha Jet, but the only major conflicts that type was involved in were fights between instructors and students; I don't think that counts. So erm... ? Jay PS Wait! Wikipedia says they participated in the Western Sahara War. Pretty major no? Hey who knows? Edited November 17, 2021 by Mountain goat Had an idea 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony.t Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 My guess is an OURAGAN Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammer625 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) Sorry it appears that Valom did one in 2011 2 hours ago, tony.t said: My guess is an OURAGAN Tony Edited November 18, 2021 by Cammer625 Autocorrect was not friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 18 hours ago, Paul Bradley said: IAR37/38/39 They did it already! https://www.scalemates.com/pl/kits/azur-frrom-fr001-iar-39--137604 Regards J-W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 I assume when they say.......... D1.2 Built at more than 200 units .............they mean more than 200 of this aircraft were produced? My French is poor you see ............... 🤔 Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMA131Marine Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 The term “major conflict” obviously includes WWI, WWII, Korean War, and the Vietnam War, but what else? Suez? Gulf War I? GWOT (Iraq and Afghanistan)? Falklands? In addition, when they say done in IM plastic more than 30 years ago does that mean in every scale or just the particular scale this kit is in, which I’m assuming will be 1/72? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 My earlier idea of Douglas DB 7 (or Havoc 1) fails as it was never kitted as injection model. The second idea of Breguet XIX also filed, although it was produced above 200 of them it was also produced above 1000 of them, moreover some number took part in WW2, but generally it was interwar airplane. It was injected kit by Polish Hit-Kit, but this was an extremely rare model. The next idea - the Fairey Fox family - any of them was never issued as injected kit. Then perhaps ANF Les Mureaux 115/117? Interesting! J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Mikolajski Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 4 hours ago, VMA131Marine said: The term “major conflict” obviously includes WWI, WWII, Korean War, and the Vietnam War, but what else? Spanish Civil War. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfman Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Piotr Mikolajski said: Spanish Civil War. I’ve investigated the Spanish Civil War but couldn’t come up with an appropriate 30 year old kit ! Wulfman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) Does the AMD Etendard/Super Etendard not fit the bill 🤔 especially as the anniversary is next year. Obviously built after 1949 so no chance! Regards Robert Edited November 18, 2021 by Robert News updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Mikolajski Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, Wulfman said: I’ve investigated the Spanish Civil War but couldn’t come up with an appropriate 30 year old kit ! Breguet XIX I voted for this one yesterday. Fits in with any given tip: over 200 were built, took part in major conflict, injected kit was released once in 1987. Besides, it fits perfectly with FR.ROM's publishing profile, and on top of that, this model is sorely lacking. After the success of the Potez 25, it seems a natural choice. Of course, today's hints may rule him out, but for now I have no better candidate who also guarantees financial success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, Piotr Mikolajski said: over 200 were built, Well, I hope you win! That clue puzzles me though, why say over 200? Many many aircraft fit that clue. Your suggestion for example had over 2,500 according to Wikipia. I think it will be something where just over 200 were built, but I have no clue other than that! Terry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Mikolajski Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Terry1954 said: Well, I hope you win! If only they actually make a Breguet XIX, then I don't have to win, I'll be able to finally buy one And if they make it at Potez 25 level, I'll probably buy three boxes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Mikolajski Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Next batch of tips: D2.1 Suffered heavy losses, when not properly employed D2.2 Wingspan : less than 23 meters D2.3 Production ceased before 1949 Breguet XIX still fits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard123 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 I reckon Fairey Battle, today's clue says production finished before 1949 which is when the Battle was withdrawn from service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Richard123 said: I reckon Fairey Battle, today's clue says production finished before 1949 which is when the Battle was withdrawn from service. I thought that but as pointed out earlier, MPM produced an injection moulded in 2000 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard123 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Terry1954 said: I thought that but as pointed out earlier, MPM produced an injection moulded in 2000 ? Doh! Missed that.🙁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPAD64 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Leo 451… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stilwell Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 3 hours ago, JWM said: My earlier idea of Douglas DB 7 (or Havoc 1) fails as it was never kitted as injection model. Unless you count the High Planes Models short run injection moulded DB-7 / Havoc 1 / Turbinlite 1 kits: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/high-planes-models-72043-douglas-db-7--1140342 https://www.hpmhobbies.com/high-planes-models-limited-run-hpmk072040-douglas-db-7-havoc-turbinlite/ https://www.hpmhobbies.com/high-planes-douglas-havoc-1-raf-intruder-kit-1-72/ But based on the Scalemates information, it doesn't pass the "Produced more than 30 years ago" condition. Jonathan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 I predicted Bloch 174 - kitted just once by Heller in 1960’s. Breguet XIX would be fine but I am afraid the fuselage surface would be almost impossible to create properly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMA131Marine Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 The Lioré & Olivier LeO 451 fits the bill quite well. Over 500 were produced. The wingspan is just under 23m. It suffered heavy losses during the Battle of France. Production continued in Vichy France until 1945. The aircraft was retired in the early 1950s. The only IM kit I am aware of is the Heller kit from 1966. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Piotr Mikolajski said: D2.1 Suffered heavy losses, when not properly employed D2.2 Wingspan : less than 23 meters D2.3 Production ceased before 1949 On 11/17/2021 at 6:11 PM, matford said: D1.1 Was involved in a major conflict D1.2 Built at more than 200 units D1.3 Already done in injection in 1/72 nd more than 30 years ago All six French WW2 twins fit the bill properly - they were all involved in THE major conflict. The wing span of Potez 540, MB200, MB210 and LeO451 ranges from 22 to 23m, MB170 and Br690 are even smaller, spanning under 18 and under 16m, respectively. Of these six, only MB175 was also manufactured after WW2, but production ceased in 1947. LeO and Br690 have suffered heavy losses due to improper employment. All six were kitted only once in 1:72 - MB200 by KzP 35 years ago, while the other five by Heller more than 50 years ago (which is still "more than 30" too) All six were built at more than 200 units, with the MB200, MB210 and Br690 at more than 300 and the LeO at more than 500 (so still "more than 200" too). A few years ago, Azur even announced a new tool MB174 kit that never came out. Only these "heavy losses" don't fit there - the MB170 was one of the most successful French twins in the 1940 war. So maybe the Bre 690 ????? The three boxes may represent the 691, 693 and the P&W-engined 695. Cheers Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, VMA131Marine said: The Lioré & Olivier LeO 451 fits the bill quite well. Over 500 were produced. The wingspan is just under 23m. It suffered heavy losses during the Battle of France. Production continued in Vichy France until 1945. The aircraft was retired in the early 1950s. The only IM kit I am aware of is the Heller kit from 1966. Indeed, Leo 451 is a good candidate. Perhaps even better than my recent guess of Mureaux 115/117. Last year I constructed Leo by Heller and it really needs the replacement.... I do not have hope for Breguet XIX here, I still wish that some company will do it. J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt-92 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, KRK4m said: So maybe the Bre 690 ????? The three boxes may represent the 691, 693 and the P&W-engined 695. Azur kit number A053. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hényk CZ Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 And Azur did Br.695 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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