Wez Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 05/12/2022 at 04:34, JackG said: Possible banner. Not sure why Pepé Le Pew popped into mind, but adds some fun. Can be removed and whatever else, let me know. regards, Jack That's great, thanks Jack! What do the collective think? Do we keep Pepé Le Pew? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Wez said: What do the collective think? Resistance is futile. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackG Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) Concerning Pepé, I was thinking after the fact maybe a character that is more synonymous with the region the GB is focused on, even specifically just Italy since that is the origin of this Group Build? Topo Gigo or Pulcinella? Edited December 6, 2022 by JackG 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 22 hours ago, JackG said: Concerning Pepé, I was thinking after the fact maybe a character that is more synonymous with the region the GB is focused on, even specifically just Italy since that is the origin of this Group Build? Topo Gigo or Pulcinella? Specifically Italia: I suggest the young Ornella Muti 😎 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 In noseart version: Alternatively, maybe a plate of spaghetti, but red and blue dogfight spaghetti. I have no computer programs for graphic editing, unfortunately. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEMPESTMK5 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Good evening For this Gb I am planning to build this kit But I don't know yet wich aircraft I will represent .. Best Regards Patrice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 On 05/12/2022 at 04:34, JackG said: Possible banner. Not sure why Pepé Le Pew popped into mind, but adds some fun. Can be removed and whatever else, let me know. regards, Jack On 06/12/2022 at 18:36, JackG said: Concerning Pepé, I was thinking after the fact maybe a character that is more synonymous with the region the GB is focused on, even specifically just Italy since that is the origin of this Group Build? Topo Gigo or Pulcinella? Sorry, I've been neglecting this and I owe an apology to @JackG for not responding sooner on this. Jack, as Pepé Le Pew isn't indigenous to the region I agree that a character that's more synonymous with the region would be better, I've taken a look at your two alternative suggestions and while Topo Gigio is a bit cutesy he is at least not menacing like Pulcinella so maybe Topo would be better than Pepé, could you make that change please? On 16/01/2023 at 16:50, TEMPESTMK5 said: Good evening For this Gb I am planning to build this kit But I don't know yet wich aircraft I will represent .. Best Regards Patrice Good choice of subject Patrice, I had toyed with the idea of an Italy based Mitchell so I'm glad you've proposed doing this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackG Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 @Wez hello, and yes will take another look at the badge. Not that much trouble as all the elements are saved as separate objects in a special work file, so just a matter of removing Pepe and adding another character. There was mention earlier of an Italian actress though admittedly not familier with her. Another passed away yesterday, Gina Lollobrigida. Would we want to pay homage to her or nix the idea entirely of a movie actor? regards, Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 Whilst I'm happy to pay tribute to "La Lollo", I get that some people may feel differently so maybe not a movie actor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 11 hours ago, Wez said: Whilst I'm happy to pay tribute to "La Lollo", I get that some people may feel differently so maybe not a movie actor. Hey @Wez, you‘re absolutely right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim R-T-C Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Just planning my 2023 calendar. Did we ever get a full official list of countries for this GB and are we talking types operated in these countries (eg during Allied invasion of Italy 1943) or by these countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackG Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 At the moment the list of countries is at a dozen and have incorporated each of their flags into the planned GB badge. Incidentally, it will not be that quick a badge fix as just realized the saved files are on a hard disk that failed over the holidays. @Tim R-T-C eludes to an important point that requires clarification. Is the theme just subjects from the list of countries named, or can include operations in this map region from other non southern European countries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 hours ago, JackG said: At the moment the list of countries is at a dozen and have incorporated each of their flags into the planned GB badge. Incidentally, it will not be that quick a badge fix as just realized the saved files are on a hard disk that failed over the holidays. @Tim R-T-C eludes to an important point that requires clarification. Is the theme just subjects from the list of countries named, or can include operations in this map region from other non southern European countries? No rush on the banner Jack, when you can get around to it will be soon enough. @Tim R-T-C, I had posted this before but it gets lost as the thread moves on, so... Eligible subjects can come from: Portugal Spain Gibraltar France (from the following regions: Occitaine, Provence-Alpes-Côte D'Azur and of course, Corse (Corsica), Monaco Italy (including all of the islands) Malta Slovenia Croatia Bosnia-Herzegovina Montenegro Yugoslavia pre break up Albania Greece Cyprus Subjects from antiquity from these countries are allowed. Equipment from countries outside of this area that were permanently based there (e.g. 56 Sqn RAF on Lightnings were based in Cyprus so that's acceptable, but 56 Sqn RAF with Phantoms only went there on detachment e.g. APC, so that wouldn't be acceptable). Eligible subjects also include wartime rotations such as the RAF Sqns or the RN Submarines based in Malta or any ship assigned to Force H in Gibraltar. Cars raced in the Monaco GP would be acceptable too. Does this help? 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim R-T-C Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 46 minutes ago, Wez said: No rush on the banner Jack, when you can get around to it will be soon enough. @Tim R-T-C, I had posted this before but it gets lost as the thread moves on, so... Eligible subjects can come from: Portugal Spain Gibraltar France (from the following regions: Occitaine, Provence-Alpes-Côte D'Azur and of course, Corse (Corsica), Monaco Italy (including all of the islands) Malta Slovenia Croatia Bosnia-Herzegovina Montenegro Yugoslavia pre break up Albania Greece Cyprus Subjects from antiquity from these countries are allowed. Equipment from countries outside of this area that were permanently based there (e.g. 56 Sqn RAF on Lightnings were based in Cyprus so that's acceptable, but 56 Sqn RAF with Phantoms only went there on detachment e.g. APC, so that wouldn't be acceptable). Eligible subjects also include wartime rotations such as the RAF Sqns or the RN Submarines based in Malta or any ship assigned to Force H in Gibraltar. Cars raced in the Monaco GP would be acceptable too. Does this help? Thanks, maybe worth adding to the first post of the thread as well, just to help lure in wayward sailors passing by 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Tim R-T-C said: Thanks, maybe worth adding to the first post of the thread as well, just to help lure in wayward sailors passing by 😁 Good idea, I'll do that later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackG Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) Looks a like a few more flags to add to the banner - Gibraltar, Bosnia-Herzegovina, and the earlier Yugoslavian flag. Subject choice is much clearer now, I was thinking something from the Austro-Hungarian empire. They did have a section of land touching the Adriatic coast, which is present day a trio of countries already on the GB listing (Slovenia, Croatia, and Bosnia-Herzegovina). I know some units were raised from Slovenes and likely fought on the Italian front. There is also the seaplane pilot ace Gottfried Freiherr von Banfield that operated over the Adriatic, Is this subject viable? regards, Jack Edited January 18, 2023 by JackG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2996 Victor Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 12 hours ago, JackG said: There is also the seaplane pilot ace Gottfried Freiherr von Banfield that operated over the Adriatic, Is this subject viable? IIRC the A-H primary seaplane base was at Trieste. The KuK Kreigsmarine also operated land planes such as the Phonix D.I fighters - they weren't engaged with the inland fighting, so could they be eligible? Cheers, Mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 I've updated the first post of this thread with the eligible locations. Subjects from the Austro-Hungarian Empire are eligible provided they are based in locations which are now coastal states (e.g. (Slovenia, Croatia, and Bosnia-Herzegovina). Does that help everyone out? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke1199 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 I'll join in this GB, not sure what with yet but there's a broad scope so I'll figure something out. Maybe an Albanian MiG/Shenyang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Luke1199 said: I'll join in this GB, not sure what with yet but there's a broad scope so I'll figure something out. Maybe an Albanian MiG/Shenyang Sounds like a good choice Luke, welcome along. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 So would this count if it were built in the markings of a unit stationed in Italy?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 As WW2 air war in the Mediterranean is one of my favourite subjects, I can't just pass this beautiful boxart from somewhere in the Greek islands. It's just as beautiful as the Eduard kit it houses, and makes me think... https://www.scalemates.com/kits/eduard-7464-bf-110e--1428087 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 On 22/01/2023 at 16:10, Marklo said: So would this count if it were built in the markings of a unit stationed in Italy?? Covered by: "Equipment from countries outside of this area that were permanently based there (e.g. 56 Sqn RAF on Lightnings were based in Cyprus so that's acceptable, but 56 Sqn RAF with Phantoms only went there on detachment e.g. APC, so that wouldn't be acceptable). Eligible subjects also include wartime rotations such as the RAF Sqns or the RN Submarines based in Malta or any ship assigned to Force H in Gibraltar." 22 hours ago, vppelt68 said: As WW2 air war in the Mediterranean is one of my favourite subjects, I can't just pass this beautiful boxart from somewhere in the Greek islands. It's just as beautiful as the Eduard kit it houses, and makes me think... https://www.scalemates.com/kits/eduard-7464-bf-110e--1428087 As long as you can prove it was based in the appropriate geographical location, that's fine! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 18 hours ago, Wez said: As long as you can prove it was based in the appropriate geographical location, that's fine! According to excellent WW2.dk website, II Gruppe of Zerstörergeschwader 76 was based at Argos, Greece, in May-June 1941. A part of its 4. Staffel was detached to Iraq, and outside of this GB's area, but the M8+_P:s were not. I'm still planning to build a Spitfire with stars and bars in this GB, and the Bf 110:s will most likely wait for their turn in 2024. There are now three four GB proposals good for them: Eduard, V-engine, Escorts and Axis&Co. Twins. I'm sure the first one, at least, will go through. But the boxart is a beauty! V-P EDIT: Added the fourth 2024 GB proposal, as the Bf 110:s had inverted Daimler-Benz V-engines 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyOD Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, vppelt68 said: I'm sure the first one, at least, will go through. Wouldn’t that be nice? 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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