Plastic_parts Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Hi guys. Is it me or has anyone noticed a change in the quality and colour accuracy of xtracrylix paint? I have had three new pots of their paint ( one pot of light aircraf grey and two of dark sea grey) and the colours are way off. The dark se grey is way way to dark in fact it’s closer to extra dark sea grey and the light aircraft grey is just a light grey and lack the yellowish tint. These pots are the newer style with clear tops. I’ve used xtracrylix for more years than I can shake a stick at and I’ve never had a problem until now. So guys, what’s going on? Have hannants changed the formula or moved production abroad? Or is it a quality control issues? I’d love to hear what you guys think. mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 I haven’t noticed anything signifciant as heavy XA user though did notice my current pot of dark compass grey yesterday in fact is a bit less blue than the one I used a few years back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bradley Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Without wishing to sound flippant, why don't you ask them? 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic_parts Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 Very strange…. I’ll try and put some test samples up to Illustrate the difference as it’s quite significant..I just wondered if anyone else had noticed any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Checked my latest pot of dark sea grey and it’s the same as yours way too dark, I’ll check the LAG as well tommorow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Doesn’t show well in the photo but late 2021 pot on the tip of the float is darker than the early 2021 pot on the Shackleton though difference has narrowed with a really good shake and repaint and matt varnishing, but a few drops of white in their should sort it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic_parts Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 Been a couple of weeks since my original post so thanks to all who have took the time to comment…I have been and purchased some more of the colour’s I’m my OP just to check it was nota bad batch that was causing to problems. The new pots were purchased from another shop and tested on my latest project. I’m sorry to say the results were much the same. The dark sea grey is way too dark and the LAG is closer to camouflage grey. Not only that put the paints now seem to dislike being applied to any surface and show their disapproval by pooling within seconds of being applied. It doesn’t make any difference if the model is primed or not and the only way round this is to keep brushing over the applied paint until it’s starting to cure but then What your left with is horrid brush marks ….I can’t wrap my head round this and after 50 years of modelling I’m pretty sure it’s not just my incompetence and I’m sure I’m not the only one having problems with this paint…. mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Haven’t come across the pooling issue myself with any of the new clear lidded pots but will have to keep that in mind going forward. My LAGs also ok though both pots were purchased almost a year ago and are the original yellow lid style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic_parts Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 Been a couple of weeks since my original post so thanks to all who have took the time to comment…I have been and purchased some more of the colour’s I’m my OP just to check it was nota bad batch that was causing to problems. The new pots were purchased from another shop and tested on my latest project. I’m sorry to say the results were much the same. The dark sea grey is way too dark and the LAG is closer to camouflage grey. Not only that put the paints now seem to dislike being applied to any surface and show their disapproval by pooling within seconds of being applied. It doesn’t make any difference if the model is primed or not and the only way round this is to keep brushing over the applied paint until it’s starting to cure but then What your left with is horrid brush marks ….I can’t wrap my head round this and after 50 years of modelling I’m pretty sure it’s not just my incompetence and I’m sure I’m not the only one having problems with this paint…. mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic_parts Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 Who would be the best people to speak to at hannants? I really don’t want to switch to another brand but it’s getting to that point. Incidentally it only seems to be an issue with these new clear pots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 I'll be a bit sad if it's screwed up, as I use XA1137 as my go-to Star Wars grey, as it's pretty much perfect for the Falcon and Rebel fighters. Is it just the tops that have changed to clear? I've got a bespoke rack for my Xtracrylix, so I'd be a bit peeved if they've changed everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Mike said: I'll be a bit sad if it's screwed up, as I use XA1137 as my go-to Star Wars grey, as it's pretty much perfect for the Falcon and Rebel fighters. Is it just the tops that have changed to clear? I've got a bespoke rack for my Xtracrylix, so I'd be a bit peeved if they've changed everything Yep, same bottle design just with a clear lid and actually latest pots the whole thing is clear. edit: proof for @Mike Edited December 16, 2021 by PhantomBigStu 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 On 12/16/2021 at 3:15 AM, Plastic_parts said: I have been and purchased some more of the colour’s I’m my OP just to check it was nota bad batch that was causing to problems. There's still a reasonable chance they're from the same batch unless the containers are obviously different or a similar sure-fire giveaway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) Finally got to to stage of using the latest pot. Dark Sea grey is absolute rubbish, pools to hell and the white I put in doesn’t mix probably and streaks. I assume the pru blue could be the same though the sky I’ve been using is the new style all clear pots and it’s the same XA quaility Edited December 19, 2021 by PhantomBigStu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) Should also counter to be fair to Hannants I have 12 of the new clear bottles and it’s only 2 that have formulation issues. Also 5 clear lid yellow body that are all fine. Though am quite annoyed as both are for builds I hoped to get done this week this is a small problem Edited December 19, 2021 by PhantomBigStu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis95 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Pure speculation here but it could be as simple as a change in the raw material supplier or the raw material supplier has changed their acquisition method. We've had something along those lines with grouts in my line of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic_parts Posted December 22, 2021 Author Share Posted December 22, 2021 Phantombigstu…. That’s exactly what’s happening, it pools like hell and the colour is way off….. I’d contact hannants if I thought it would get me anywhere but I don’t know who to contact . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesP Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Just contact Hannants I’m sure they will be able to direct your query to the right person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brown Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Plastic_parts said: Phantombigstu…. That’s exactly what’s happening, it pools like hell and the colour is way off….. I’d contact hannants if I thought it would get me anywhere but I don’t know who to contact . I've contacted Hannants quite a few times (all for the right reasons..) and have found them very helpful. Just drop them an email, I use: [email protected] I hope we get to the bottom of this as I love some of their colours. Rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Harmsworth Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 I hate to be a killjoy here but contacting Hannants might have been a way to go. Their Terms & Conditions have a point on 'defective' goods: This: If, in the unlikely event, your goods arrive in a damaged condition or are defective, you must inform us as soon as is practically possible and in any event no later than 7 days after discovery. Failure to do so will deem that you have accepted the goods. Seems reasonable to me. I use xtracylix a lot and haven't had your problem of 'pooling' - I use an airbrush and I would guess you aren't? How are you preparing the plastic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bradley Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 11/10/2021 at 5:06 PM, Paul Bradley said: Without wishing to sound flippant, why don't you ask them? 🙂 And if anyone had listened, you might have an answer by now..... 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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