Angus Tura Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Hello. Rich has very decently let these two reprobates from Nordic I make a re-appearance here. They've had their flesh tones painted in the meantime, and their axe-handles. I've got their clothes started: According to an Osprey book, they were especially fond of green clothes, which looks pretty good, I think. I'm trying to decide on the colour of the tunic of the front man. I had thought the same sort of green as the back man but I think that would be a bit too green. More later. Alan 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desert falcon Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Proper vikings them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamp Donkey Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Like those a lot. Do love a Viking SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Red. I recommend red because it's opposite to green on the colour wheel and will give the static scene a bit of dramatic impact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Cool👍, looks like they're up for a bit of trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Arr the dynamic duo are back...... and hopefully finished this time (no pressure!!! ) I reckon the dude at the back needs to be holding a huge tankard..... they look cross because someone ordered a shandy at their local! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterB Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) They look rather good Alan. I guess the colours depended on the dyes available at the time - mostly from plants and insects/animals I suppose, but not something I know a lot about. A brownish red seems to be one possibility as it appears to have been a popular colour according to Osprey, but you probably know a lot more about this than I do and anyway it is your build so your choice! Pete Edited October 26, 2021 by PeterB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrahs Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 9 hours ago, PeterB said: I guess the colours depended on the dyes available at the time - mostly from plants and insects/animals I suppose, but not something I know a lot about. A The new Viking exhibit at the Historical Museum in Stockholm had the following (freshly dyed with Viking age methods and dyes) on display regarding Viking fabrics: So for fresh fabric I'd say most things are on the table. With some use most colours likely faded somewhat rapidly. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Tura Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 Parrahs, thank you so much! I decided on a yellow for the Hersir's tunic and I'm delighted to see that that's on the palette you've posted. The green of the Karl's (?) tunic is too bright but it hasn't been shaded much yet, which should bring it down quite a bit. Here they are with the basic colours except the trousers. I'll paint them last so that I don't keep rubbing off the paint while painting the torsos and heads. I'm going to put them by now for a week or two now for the base oil paints to dry hard and hopefully matt-down a bit more. On 10/23/2021 at 12:48 PM, Bertie Psmith said: Red. I recommend red because it's opposite to green on the colour wheel and will give the static scene a bit of dramatic impact. I'm surprised at you suggesting a colour, Bertie, after the business of the mauve socks. I'm surprised too that your valet hasn't told you, as Mrs.Tura has told me many, many times, that red and green should never be seen. Alan 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, Angus Tura said: Parrahs, thank you so much! I decided on a yellow for the Hersir's tunic and I'm delighted to see that that's on the palette you've posted. The green of the Karl's (?) tunic is too bright but it hasn't been shaded much yet, which should bring it down quite a bit. Here they are with the basic colours except the trousers. I'll paint them last so that I don't keep rubbing off the paint while painting the torsos and heads. I'm going to put them by now for a week or two now for the base oil paints to dry hard and hopefully matt-down a bit more. I'm surprised at you suggesting a colour, Bertie, after the business of the mauve socks. I'm surprised too that your valet hasn't told you, as Mrs.Tura has told me many, many times, that red and green should never be seen. Alan You remind me of a valet that a cousin of mine once had.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 they do look good, I love the detail in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Tura Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share Posted December 4, 2021 Rich. Thanks. This thread seems to have been duplicated. There's this version, but also this: https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235100744-scarborough-800-ad/ which is a lot less popular. Here is some progress on these chaps. You could be forgiven for thinking that they look exactly the same as when last I photographed them, but I've done quite a lot more shading and highlighting. The green of the back-chap is faded a bit by that, which is a relief, but it doesn't show up too well in these photos. I've painted up the shields. I undercoated with Tamiya white fine primer, I managed to get some overspray on the backs of the shields. I tried to wash that off with W&N varnish remover, which didn't work at all. To my surprise turpentine has taken most of the white haze off and after a bit of wire-wooling they look OK again. I didn't photograph the overspray but here they are cleaned up again: I read somewhere or other that the paint traces found on the shields along the sides of the Oseberg ship-burial were alternately yellow and black. I thought that would go well with the greens in these but I also thought that it would be handy, if you were on rapine and pillage hell-bent, if all your chums had the same shields. So, I've gone for this: These are Mr.Color C113, RLM04 yellow, and Tamiya Lacquer German Grey. I haven't tried the Tamiya lacquer before. It sprayed beautifully thinned with the Tamiya retarder-type lacquer thinner. The shields need fading and shading but I'm pretty happy with the basic colour. See you later. Alan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Those shields look nice! Way better than, say, red and green 😇 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desert falcon Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Awesome work so far !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 those shields do look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Tura Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 Hello, again. I had thought by last week that this was not going to be done on deadline, and spent a bit of time preparing and then failing to complete the Blitzenbuild. While blitzenbuilding I saw that we had an extension on this one. This is great. I wish I had known, and would probably not have started the blitzenbuild. Anyway. I had progressed these a bit before thinking I wasn't going to get there. They've got their hair painted on and the white metal axes, helmet and shield bosses. This was Vallejo Natural Steel x 2 thin coats. The hair is H110 wood and some H103 (I think) cream. These need a bit of texturing. I should be able to get the leather straps and shield bits all done before the end of the weekend. I spent more time on the base than the figures in the last couple of weeks. I want the front viking to be standing in/on some dune-grass and the back one on sand. I found a great explanation of using "Treemendus" fake fur for long grass here: http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=1999.0 . I also found some pictures of grass on dunes on-line. Here is a bit of fake fur stained/painted with Mr.Color IDF green. This is one messy job, not least because of the thinners you need for Mr.Color paint. I have spent quite a bit of time repairing the kitchen table (!) Next time I'll use Vallejo and water as the link above suggests. The problem with the fake fur seems to be hiding its backing material. As suggested by the finescale railroader I built up the front and side edges of the base with magic-sculp, albeit I'll need to deepen the ground surface more for this to work. That build-up of the edges, however, has meant I've had to re-finishes the edges of the base, and I can't get that to work without it cracking between to wooden base and the Das clay from which most of the base is made. This is such a pain! I won't be using the Das clay again. I think the problem is its porosity. The paint is black Mr.Surfacer 1500 and I wonder if some other paint might not work better. I got some stone effect spray at B&Q today, which I thought I might try in the hope of covering up the crack. It's maybe a bit too coarse, and its got white flecks in it, which I am not big on. I'll maybe just brush paint it matt enamel and then satin valllejo varnish but if I do the landscaping before the edges are OK I won't be able to spray it again so easily. I'll let you know, Alan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Tura Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 On 12/4/2021 at 5:55 AM, JeroenS said: Those shields look nice! Way better than, say, red and green 😇 Couldn't agree with you more Jeroen. Red and green could only be suggested by one of those chaps I've heard about who seem to live for pleasure alone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 I do hope you'll be able to finish this one, please "crack on" 😇 The fur does look pretty convincing actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Tura Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 Thanks again. I am cracking on as best as poss. I should have something for the gallery on-time although it might not be 100% I've painted the footprints on the base and its edges with black oil-paint and pressed the grass on top to see where the feet should go, I could then cut out the foot marks and the edged edges, as it were: , and stick the grass to the base. I started with the feet and then, when that was dry worked my way round, trimming and sticking. Or, in the case of the back edge of the grass, sticking and trimming. All 5" epoxy. One is always learning! The fur has a definite "grain", wanting to lie in the direction it is made. Where it's cut across the grain the fur along the cut comes loose and there's a bit of a bald patch , while, with the grain there's no bald patch: No bald patch. Bald patch. Here is the bald patch filled in with 5" epoxy and bits of painted fur cut off the backing material: At the back of the clump of grass, where there's an overhang on the base, the backing of the fur is really obvious but I am going to put some roots under the overhang and then blend them into the grass above with some earth paint/paste: Here's the man standing in the grass before trimming, and the both of them with the grass trimmed: There are a couple of bald areas which need some help and I might trim the grass a bit more. It's about a centimetre now, or a scale foot, approximately, which I think is about right for dune-grass. A couple of things learnt are: to paint the backing with glue (PVA?) before cutting it in future: I think that would prevent the bald patches. And to use the grain of the fur better. You can see that the grass is trying to point to the left in the photo while, if there were an on-shore breeze, it would be better to have the grass coming towards the front. The best of it is that in this photo-angle you can't see their feet! So, I reckon if I paint the trousers. stick on the hindmost man's right hand and front man's shield, take another photo and post it in the gallery I might avoid a visit from Rich and his emoji-baseball bat... See you Sunday, Alan 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 That's good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 This is looking great Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 that does look really good!!! The "long grass" looks like the long dune grass you see at the beach, love it! I have faith that you'll make it in time............. .... see no bat this time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Tura Posted January 9, 2022 Author Share Posted January 9, 2022 On 1/7/2022 at 9:02 PM, trickyrich said: I have faith that you'll make it in time............. .... see no bat this time! No bat, but that is your actual emoji-flagellum australis! Its a couple of days after epiphany but I have nonetheless had a revelation: There is a god, and he abhors slightly dishonest entries in groupbuild galleries. I have ignored this celestial message and painted the trousers and stuck the bits together, and the hersir's foot back on. So, here they are, finished-ish: Thanks very much for the groupbuild(s) Rich, and all. A few too many things for me to learn to be entirely comfortable time-wise. More in the gallery. Roll-on Bombers, Ground attack &c. in a fortnight: Scarborough 1914 AD in planning. Alan. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I think the gents look very cool Alan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andwil Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Nice to see the green guy with hands! AW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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