ArnoldAmbrose Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Gidday Dmitriy, that hull has beautiful lines. Regards, Jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitriy1967 Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 If Vosper was able to make two sister ships Brave Borderer and Brave Swordsman, then why don't I make two ships? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Dmitriy1967 said: then why don't I make two ships? No argument from me. Jon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitriy1967 Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 You have already realized that the second one is not Brave Swordsman. I made a blank for the practice of pasting fiberglass with epoxy resin. I'll try it on a piece of wood first, so as not to spoil the ship. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Always worth trying it in something disposable first. This is a lesson for myself that I seem very resistant to learning Steve 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 26 minutes ago, Steve D said: that I seem very resistant to learning I very rarely listen to my own advice Jon 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 clever dmitriy , I think we can all fall into that trap at times , steve . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitriy1967 Posted March 26, 2022 Author Share Posted March 26, 2022 I conducted an experiment with pasting fiberglass with epoxy. The result is negative. Apparently, the fabric is too thick, poorly repeats the bends of the part. Steve was right. I began to think. what to do. I looked at my wife... And then I had an idea! Instead of fiberglass, use women's stockings! They are made of thin nylon that will perfectly fit on the irregularities. Since I only need a thin coating, the stockings will be enough. They will perform the tasks of reinforcing epoxy resin. Next week I will set up a new experiment. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 I'm not surprised Dmitriy, however, silk might work better than stockings, easier to work with Cheers Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitriy1967 Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 Glued epoxy resin on stockings. The result is good. A little fun - Brave Borderer in women's stockings. There is a small problem - the stocking does not fit to the body in the place of the reverse bend. I'm thinking how to solve this problem. Probably I will first glue this bend with pressing through a plastic film. And then I will cover the rest of hull with resin. P.S. The stockings turned out to be short and I had to go to a lingerie store to buy tights. I experienced very strange feelings when I asked women in the store to tell me how to choose the largest size... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Gidday Dmitriy, and I bet she didn't believe you when you said it was for a boat hull. 😀 I've bought them also, to dunk stabilizer and chlorine in a swimming pool. And no jokes please about did I need a suspender belt for them. 😁 But seriously, would the nylon conform to the boat's lower bow curves if it were cut into strips? The nylon, not the boat. 🙂 Then run the strips along the hull. Interested in seeing how this turns out. Regards, Jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitriy1967 Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 8 hours ago, ArnoldAmbrose said: But seriously, would the nylon conform to the boat's lower bow curves if it were cut into strips? The nylon, not the boat. 🙂 Then run the strips along the hull. Interested in seeing how this turns out. I've been thinking about it. But nylon, unlike fiberglass, will not lie flat. It stretches and contracts and twists very much. It will not work without pre-tension. In addition, there may be irregularities at the joints of different strips. The epoxy layer will be very thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Good luck with it, but I still think silk will be a better option as it has no pre-tension so will lie flat across the concave curvature of the bow. Also its very fine weave will require less finishing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Gidday Dmitriy, I've not used nylons for modelling so it was just a thought. @Steve D above I think would know much more about this than me. Good luck with it. Regards, Jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitriy1967 Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 31 minutes ago, Steve D said: Good luck with it, but I still think silk will be a better option as it has no pre-tension so will lie flat across the concave curvature of the bow. Also its very fine weave will require less finishing. Steve, I believe you that silk is better. But I do not know where to get it. Where do you get silk for such works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraway Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Is the idea of the covering to create a very smooth surface ? Could you it use tissue paper stuck down with a varnish ? Jon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Dmitriy1967 said: Where do you get silk for such works You could try a silk pillow case, that should provide enough material for the job. Hopefully such a thing is available in Russia Cheers Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitriy1967 Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Faraway said: Is the idea of the covering to create a very smooth surface ? Could you it use tissue paper stuck down with a varnish ? Jon John, the idea is to protect the wooden hull from water and possible impacts on obstacles, rocks, shore. The model will move through the water under radio control. 6 hours ago, Steve D said: You could try a silk pillow case, that should provide enough material for the job. Hopefully such a thing is available in Russia Thanks, Steve, I'll think about it. Edited April 4, 2022 by Dmitriy1967 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitriy1967 Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 I decided to use stockings. It would be a shame if my trials in the women's store would have been wasted. Covered the body. It looks erotic in tights. Now I do not cover the entire body with resin, but only in places of negative bending. I want to glue nylon exactly in the concave place. Smeared with resin, covered with plastic wrap and pressed with a flexible soft tube with a substrate. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitriy1967 Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 I work with epoxy resin for the first time in my life. It could have been worse. I am more or less satisfied with the result. The irregularities will then be polished. Now I will cover the whole body with epoxy. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 That should be fine, plenty of wet&dry sanding coming, will look like glass at the end 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Cunning plan !! Kev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitriy1967 Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Steve D said: That should be fine, plenty of wet&dry sanding coming, will look like glass at the end Polish it. Paint it perfectly... And then stain it with rust and algae! 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitriy1967 Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 hour ago, longshanks said: Cunning plan !! Kev Thanks. Time will tell how cunning this plan is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitriy1967 Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 But, one thing I realized already now. I absolutely do not like working with epoxy resin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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