Jasper dog Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 So as to keep John @Bullbasket happy, and spurred on by @simmerit build I've made a start on the Centurion. This I'm very confident wont be assembled before the weekend, probably/possibly a different approach to last weeks T34. Obligatory box top shot along with the DEF mantlet cover and Panzer Art roadwheels, even includes a resin figure! Someone might be advocating replacing the tracks with metal ones... and adding a little more pe than AH supplies, again.... Anyhow a start has been made, suspension units assembled complete with drop links for the front and rear units. I'm absolutely no expert on these things btw so forgive any errors. Would I be right to suggest these are Hortsmann units? Ohhhhh joy, back to tan plastic on a tan mat, again! Wheels won't go on until painted, as usual for me.. Need to clean up a a few injector pin marks/towers on the drive housing. Lower hull assembled along with drive wheels, all pretty much trouble free so far. Happy days! Well that's it for this morning. Thanks for looking Darryl 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullbasket Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 FINALLY!! I'm interested to see how this stacks up against the AFV Club's version, as I have a Mklll build that stalled a couple of years ago. So far, they appear to be very similar. Is this a rip off of the AFV kit? But I digress. Nice work with what you've done so far Darryl. John. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edjbartos Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Nice start to this Darryl, looks an interesting build, will be interesting to see this develop. By the way the mug of tea next to the box cover doesn't fool me, I noticed the two beer bottle tops on the left 😁 ED 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diablo rsv Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 I shall watch this one closely Darryl, I have the AVRE one in the pile and I nearly started the AFV Club Mk.I a couple of times so it will be interesting to see the comparison. Maybe I should start it, it would be like a mini Centurion group build on here. Good to see the Border cutting mat getting some use, I guess it's from the Crusader. Have I missed that build somewhere? Wayne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Almost missed this one, will pull up a chair and follow along if I may? Nice start looking forward to the next update now Stay safe Roger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M3talpig Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 19 hours ago, Jasper dog said: So as to keep John @Bullbasket happy, and spurred on by @simmerit build I've made a start on the Centurion. This I'm very confident wont be assembled before the weekend, probably/possibly a different approach to last weeks T34. Obligatory box top shot along with the DEF mantlet cover and Panzer Art roadwheels, even includes a resin figure! What's this ......my god man you haven't finished the other one yet .....must admit to wanting a few items of Israeli armour ...the Shot Kals and the M48-60 based conversions and a couple of Merkavas would be nice ..perhaps a Zelda or two and lets not forget some of the engineering conversions.....and a Nagmachon.............jeez i just spent a grand right there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper dog Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 19 hours ago, Bullbasket said: FINALLY!! I'm interested to see how this stacks up against the AFV Club's version, as I have a Mklll build that stalled a couple of years ago. So far, they appear to be very similar. Is this a rip off of the AFV kit? But I digress. Nice work with what you've done so far Darryl. John. Just for you John! I've heard its a copy but until I'm home I can't compare the two, I'll have a shufty next week. If it goes together OK then fine with me! 18 hours ago, edjbartos said: Nice start to this Darryl, looks an interesting build, will be interesting to see this develop. By the way the mug of tea next to the box cover doesn't fool me, I noticed the two beer bottle tops on the left 😁 ED Dash it, rumbled! Two bottles of Bier Morreti over ones Granola, start the day as you mean to go on! I can cover my tracks by explaining I use them for putting CA in! Thanks Ed, certainly, so far at least, appears to be rather a nice kit.🤞 18 hours ago, diablo rsv said: I shall watch this one closely Darryl, I have the AVRE one in the pile and I nearly started the AFV Club Mk.I a couple of times so it will be interesting to see the comparison. Maybe I should start it, it would be like a mini Centurion group build on here. Good to see the Border cutting mat getting some use, I guess it's from the Crusader. Have I missed that build somewhere? Wayne Thanks Wayne, why not join in! If this is indicative of the other AM Centurions I could be tempted by another... No you haven't missed the Crusader build, I just pinched the mat, it's a handy size to travel with. But the colour....both the T34 and this have plastic the same colour as the mat! 1 hour ago, Hamden said: Almost missed this one, will pull up a chair and follow along if I may? Nice start looking forward to the next update now Stay safe Roger Great to have you along Roger, you haven't missed anything. Cheers chaps. Had hoped to proceed this morning, last morning of hols etc but we have a power cut and the kitchen table I'm working from is rather dark unfortunately. Guess I've no excuse but to walk the dog instead and hope it comes back on soon, really need a brew too! Atb Darryl 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper dog Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, M3talpig said: What's this ......my god man you haven't finished the other one yet .....must admit to wanting a few items of Israeli armour ...the Shot Kals and the M48-60 based conversions and a couple of Merkavas would be nice ..perhaps a Zelda or two and lets not forget some of the engineering conversions.....and a Nagmachon.............jeez i just spent a grand right there. I know, the guilt, the torment! I've so much to finish off too.... First piece of Israeli armour I've done, not even sure of the colour it should be.... It would make a refreshing change from those 88mm phalli ! You don't need them all straight away, could try just one at a time. (Yeah I know, as if I would!! ). Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmerit Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Nice start. I suspect you will be quicker than me as I have an absolute mountain of etch...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper dog Posted October 10, 2021 Author Share Posted October 10, 2021 On 08/10/2021 at 10:40, simmerit said: Nice start. I suspect you will be quicker than me as I have an absolute mountain of etch...... Ooooooh! You won't shame me into investing in a load of am etch and other goodies.. .... Anyway back home so a return to ultra slow modelling unfortunately. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmerit Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Looks like you are just about at the point where your finger must be hovering over the 'add to basket' button for the first set of etch! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ade H Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 12:49, Jasper dog said: You won't shame me into investing in a load of am etch and other goodies Big Ed set... Big Ed set... https://www.scalemates.com/kits/eduard-big35100-idf-shot-kal--1375106 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewolf Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 07/10/2021 at 13:35, Bullbasket said: FINALLY!! I'm interested to see how this stacks up against the AFV Club's version, as I have a Mklll build that stalled a couple of years ago. So far, they appear to be very similar. Is this a rip off of the AFV kit? But I digress. Nice work with what you've done so far Darryl. John. I must admit I'm really keen to see how this stacks up against the AFV club kit. I intend to grab a shot cal for Xmas, I've always really liked and admired IDF Centurions, and fancy the AFV club 1973 shot cal or the amusing hobby..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper dog Posted November 9, 2021 Author Share Posted November 9, 2021 Just as soon as I can clear one of the many "WIPs" off the bench I'll be back on it! So far i rather like it but I'm no expert on the details. Hopefully in the next week or two or ....we'll have some progress. 🤞 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echen Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) Just saw a bit of Valley of Tears on TV. Some IDF Shot KALs in defense of the Golan Heights against a lot of Tirans. One of the Shot Cals was hit. One crew member injured and needed pulling out of the burning turret. Another crew member was trapped by debris and two others went back in to release him. The crew were in there several minutes with little flames all around. Were Shot Cals particularly fire resistant? Or was this artistic licence? Edited November 11, 2021 by echen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan-o Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 15 hours ago, echen said: Just saw a bit of Valley of Tears on TV. Some IDF Shot CALs in defense of the Golan Heights against a lot of Tirans. One of the Shot Cals was hit. One crew member injured and needed pulling out of the burning turret. Another crew member was trapped by debris and two others went back in to release him. The crew were in there several minutes with little flames all around. Were Shot Cals particularly fire resistant? Or was this artistic licence? Once any tank is breached it’s pretty much going to burn. This Tiran business is a bit misleading,although they are Tirans in the film, the Syrians would have been using T54/55 not an Israeli modified tank. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echen Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, ivan-o said: This Tiran business is a bit misleading,although they are Tirans in the film, the Syrians would have been using T54/55 not an Israeli modified tank. One lives and one learns. I think the IDF crew referred to the opposition as operating Tirans at one point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carius Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Great project Darryl, looking forward to see more news Cesar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewolf Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 10 hours ago, echen said: One lives and one learns. I think the IDF crew referred to the opposition as operating Tirans at one point. Yes they did...... must admit I hadn't noticed the Syrian Tanks were Tirans.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelholic Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) With the IDF using T54/55 tanks they captured in the past that they started calling 'Tirans', wouldn't it follow that IDF personnel would call T54/55 'Tirans'? ignoring any changes the IDF made. (sort of like. If you use Centurion based tanks you call Oilifants and are attacked be Centurions are you going to take the time to appreciate the differences) Tom Edited November 14, 2021 by Modelholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbyeomanry Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Did these all have the full mantlet cover? Those on Valley of tears just seem to have a partial cover round the edges of the mantlet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper dog Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 Well rummaged around and dug this out from under a pile of dust. Still working on the hull. Unlike the AFV club kit, from what I've heard and read, the engine deck panels all fit pretty well no sign of the warping that the AFV kit is supposed to suffer from. The Amusing Hobby etch has been used along with the 3d printed glacis panel, mostly secured with Mr Hobby Mr Cement Deluxe. Better modellers than I replace the catches, handles, tool boxes, etc, etc with AM but TBH i just want to build and enjoy it without get bogged down in AM stuff again unlike the last few builds. Some aspects of the instructions aren't overly clear regarding placement of various items on the fenders but nothing, so far, that is proving awkward. Nice to be building and seeing progress over painting friggin figures..... Atb Thanks for looking Darryl 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef N. Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Concerning etched I'm similar to you by the sounds of it. I'll use parts of it but a lot of the smaller stuff will be left as it will drive me nuts and slow the whole building down. It's looking good. Nearly time for the airbrush.👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper dog Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Stef N. said: Concerning etched I'm similar to you by the sounds of it. I'll use parts of it but a lot of the smaller stuff will be left as it will drive me nuts and slow the whole building down. It's looking good. Nearly time for the airbrush.👍 Absolutely, whilst some folks do utterly amazing work with it, of which I'm so envious, sometimes you just need to crack on and build particularly if bench time is very limited. Going to be awhile before this is in the paintshop I'd imagine, particularly as I've the T34 waiting to go in.... Cheers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmerit Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 A bit late for me, but where did you source that 3D glacis plate just out of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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