Brandy Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, hendie said: I'm just glad I have a printer Nudge, nudge, hint hint.... and you could see it on your 'puter screen too, so it would be in focus! Looking good so far though! Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, Brandy said: Nudge, nudge, hint hint.... and you could see it on your 'puter screen too, so it would be in focus! Looking good so far though! Ian Ok you miladdo, behave. Out of viscus or not at least I can actually drive a pencil, file and scraper. One of them thar disputer programs would simply stop me dead, this way I gets to create my way. Incidentally I too am glad Alan and variously you others have printers, I can rejoice in watching the first real advance in model making since sailors whittled bones into 'bottleships' 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 I always say "no model of mine survives first Giemme-ing* without the need for tactical reworking!" This one proves the point, although it had been primered in Humbrol Grey Priming finish earlier the first coat of Tamiya Royal Grey showed up a medieval field trench layer of unwanted and indeed unneeded grooving. A fair number of inadvisable lumpy bits too But it also pleased me, minor grievances notwithstanding I have decided I do like it in grey-green-light grey, thanks god for stopping me painting it yellow... As you may recall I was entertaining an idea of dropping the kit rotors onto the helo but frankly, I ain't a fan so I continued giving a scratch a rub. Savlon is commended for itchy scratches, but in this case I was happy getting the arms right instead of using emollients. Here is my comparison piece, the kit's upper yoke against the ones I am using, which were measured off the scale drawings. Look to be a third larger although on a model they don't look awful, if it wasn't for my OCD it would have been OK to use them, ho hum. Now this it was not a walk in the park, piecing the rotor blades onto the pivotty pins one at a time But once the first one was in place it better, I did have to cut a slope onto the peg to allow variations in drilled positions but, kinda dispirited about that as I wanted it to just slip on unaided. Bleugh All pegged now, still have a decison about the blades, use them tidied up or make new ones? This kit which I 'won' (yes won) on eBay arrived in a plastic bag with the famously sparse Royal Navy penguin transfer sheet and no box but did have three rotor blades as per spec 'xcept the blades were bent almost backwards-upside-down-over-inwards. I am tempted to make new blades but since I read the Dragonfly had modified Whirlwind blades I am pondering making six... With the rotor blades now pinched together I will be making a start on the swash plate and assorted gubbinses as here depicted in a fine museum piece. Now I did consider making the pairs of lightening holes in the under web piece. Nah, not going to. It will only weaken the three arms if I do and I don't think we will have in flight harmonics to worry about. Oh look a Whirlwind fuselage and three rotor head as a closing shot. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 * in case you are new round here Giorgio, AKA @giemme always wants paint on, any time any model. Don't you G? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Bill... I think you've outdone yourself with that rotor head this time. Fabulous, and it's only going to get even better. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 That is indeed quite something that you've built there Bill; you'll make rotary votaries out of all of us with work like that. Simply superb. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Satisfied my since-christmas-helicoptery-thingy update need there Bill. Fine trad-modelling, if I might be permitted to join the chorus of approval. S’pect you’ll be blending in some CAD afore too long n’all 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 4, 2022 Author Share Posted January 4, 2022 Ho bleeding ho... But ta Steve, pity I can't control orientation in 360... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 On 03/01/2022 at 17:35, perdu said: * in case you are new round here Giorgio, AKA @giemme always wants paint on, any time any model. Don't you G? I don't know what you're talking about.... Impressive scratch building, Bill - who needs a 3D printer with that ability? Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 On 1/3/2022 at 4:32 PM, perdu said: Ooh, look! Droop stops! Now you’re talking… Excellent be-greeblance, and to my eyes the Bill-head is coming along nicely. Proper job! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: Ooh, look! Droop stops! Now you’re talking… Excellent be-greeblance, and to my eyes the Bill-head is coming along nicely. Proper job! Only half the set of droop stops Crisp, look no spring brackets or springs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Lovely, traditional yet "state of the art Bill", modelling going on there with that rotor head Bill. I love it. I plan to have a go at this 3D malarky at some point, but for now that's all quite dependant on obtaining the kit (Printer and decent windows machine for Fusion) which currently would have no proper home, until my promised new hobby area/man cave is ready. I currently share an Art studio with Mrs T. The new space is in fact a garage conversion requiring extensive building work, and most builders around here seem to have huge backlogs in availability. This summer is hopeful. In the meantime, you continue to remind me and inspire me, that the old ways are far from over! Happy New Year! Terry 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 The Airfix Whirlwind is a strange, complicated little beast easily suited to its oddball history I'd say. The first one I ever built had British European Airways on the transfer sheet and no windows, oh it had the holes but no transparencies at all. The cockpit was a collection of frames and spaces and I was thrilled with it Copyright © scalemates, to whom I have much gratitude. I loved this little kit, my first 'built it myself' helicopter so can you imagine how pleased I was that Airfix eventually modified the very elderly kit and added windows, chuffed to little mintballs as they say. One thing I didn't like was the not quite right-ness of some parts of it, I have the drawings for the S-55 as well as the Whirlwind which tell me, Mr OCD, that the tail rotor is not right for either helicopter. That supplied in the kit, this one Is too big for the S-55 and too small for the Whirlwind as well as being as flash loaded to beggary. The Whirly has a slightly longer and significantly wider set of tail rotor blades so I set about producing some. I recall Hendie being able to enlarge the control surfaces on his one, not an option here though so I made a new one and added linkages to it. Paint, we need paint. As you see the kit one isnt far off the length but when the flash gets removed we are looking at a really skinny thing that needs filing thin at the edges. The Whirly herself is waiting for the thin coat of Mr Dissolved Putty to dry ready for fairing in, how long should I give it before I try to treat it with sanding sticks? On that you can see I have added the upper door rails to the upper canopy and I have treated the blemishes to a hard time with the sanding sticks, blimey-o'reilly I do love those sanding sticks. Ready for a drop more Light Aircraft Grey in the morning and masking for colour can begin. Also getting closer to a decision is the Dragonfly. Look, legs on and the bustle done for now, further bustling is not precluded though, we await paint there too. I have not yet decided which of the two Naval colour schemes I have pictures of I will use This? Or this? With titles on the very tail I must say I prefer this one but the colours have me befuddled Is it Extra Dark Sea Grey and Sky or is it possibly Dark Sea Grey with a not-quite-Sky blue-grey? Any assistance offered will save me from having to make do with a deadly boring silver paint job. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Wonderful stuff Bill - a great update. The Whirlwind is coming along like a ... well, a Whirlwind I suppose. I love what you're doing with that kit. As for the flying dragon - if you have to besmirch it with such vulgarity, I'd go for the "it's not all silver" scheme. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 There's always this In Cosford Aerospace Museum ......... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony in NZ Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 hours ago, perdu said: Definitely this...I think this scheme looks really snappy. Nice variation in 2 tone (sorry cant help with the colours) and black/white and red markings. Very nice! I must say I am enjoying your latest update, very inspiring work indeed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Looking good Bill. I don't know if you have noticed, on the later marques of Whirlwind's the circular plate below the MRH disappeared, it was a three legged spider. Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 Thank you Colin I think this is what you mean, I am working towards an early build HAR(HC)10 which is basically this one minus the covers over the fuel vents so not anticipating using the earlier rotor head gear seen in the museum specimen case. Chances are I wouldn't have noticed either, taking my cue from the 'MRG in a case' picture. This is the version I built for my US Marines H-19 Whirly in an early production stage and not right for this one, phew. I need this one. What we will see is likely to be a bit wrong but enough like the MRG to pass muster in the dark. Even visible on my old tattered ATC sqn photograph of XD186, but thanks to your timely intervention saved me from working up the older version which would have been easy to do if I had not heard you nudge. This is why I post my crappy builds, so that knowledge like yours can be shared. Cheers 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 22 minutes ago, perdu said: This is why I post my crappy builds, I must have missed those builds Bill. The ones I see are all rather splendid and inspiring! Terry 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 More impressive scratch building, Bill Looks like you really enjoy this kind of stuff, as a general rule.... Ciao 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 8, 2022 Author Share Posted January 8, 2022 I enjoy this bit more G Xtracrylics DSG with added flow improver, I have to cover everything grey with Maskol to stop it becoming a misty green where it isn't wanted on voyage. Tomorrow we will see. But now we have some movement with the Dragonfly, mostly by having to remove the main gear struts and needing to re-glue them on now. Bustle firmly in place, whatever the heck it is for.. Boy that flash is not helping is it? Nicer? Works better for me anyway, must dash. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, perdu said: Nicer? Much! Ian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 14 hours ago, Brandy said: Much! Ian Totally agree with Ian Stay safe Roger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 9, 2022 Author Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Hamden said: Totally agree with Ian Stay safe Roger Thanks guys, let's all stay safe huh. 👍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 On 1/5/2022 at 4:44 PM, hendie said: Wonderful stuff Bill - a great update. The Whirlwind is coming along like a ... well, a Whirlwind I suppose. I love what you're doing with that kit. As for the flying dragon - if you have to besmirch it with such vulgarity, I'd go for the "it's not all silver" scheme. Well since he’s besmirching - nay, chopping & befouling - a perfectly respectable Naval anti-submarine hubschrauber into a big-nosed camouflaged Crab thing, it only seems fair that the Dragon should be graced with a elegant Naval job. I’d vote for the EDSG over Sky; so redolent of its time, when you were lucky if a helicopter stayed airborne at all… especially if it was a Dragonfly! 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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