MiG-Mech Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 hours ago, LN-KEH said: Back to the MiG 23/27 family; it is really large and diverse - even more than the MiG 25s. Exactly! 1 hour ago, Piotr Mikolajski said: Yep. I wanted one or maybe two MiG-25s, ended with four. I only want MiG-23MF, MiG-23UB and MiG-27K, but how many I end up with I prefer not to think about. I thought the same. Now I have four, too. I "need" MF, BN and UB. But there are already so many nice Czech special markings ... that will not be cheap. Aftermarket like Reskit will do its job for sure. But I hope ICM will publish more decal variants compared to the -25 kits with repeating russian and lybian markings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 As for my, in my collection the direction of evolution is important: What do we see in the diagram? The end point as the pinnacle of the evolution of the MiG-23MLD as a dog fight fighter and the MiG-23P as an interceptor, as start - MiG-23S. So, all what my need it's MiG-23S, MiG-23MLD and something in between MiG-23MF or MiG-23MS or MiG-23M. This is enough to show the minimum evolution of the MiG-23, as for my. For fighter-bomber model enough MiG-23BN and MiG-27K. This minimum. At maximum, with projects...I don't know were end! Wing 1st edition, wing 2nd edition, wing 3rd edition, naval version projects, two engine project version e.t.c, e.t.c. B.R. Serge P.S. 6 hours ago, MiG-Mech said: with repeating russian and lybian markings. But one markings will most likely not be there.... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 On 30/09/2021 at 03:09, LN-KEH said: Back to the MiG 23/27 family; it is really large and diverse - Yes, I cant understand why we were discussing the MiG-25 in a thread on the 23. Despite many requests to keep things on topic in the Rumor section people are still not doing this..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Mikolajski Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Borisz said: Alright little know it all, name the air to air weapons of these variants MiG-23BN - UPK-23-250 gun pods, R-3S (AA-2A "Atoll"), R-13M (AA-2C "Advanced Atoll") MiG-27 - UPK-23-250 gun pods, SPPU-22-01 gun pods, R-3S (AA-2A "Atoll"), R-13M (AA-2C "Advanced Atoll") MiG-27K - UPK-23-250 gun pods, SPPU-22-01 gun pods, R-3S (AA-2A "Atoll"), R-13M (AA-2C "Advanced Atoll"), R-60M (AA-8 "Aphid") 3 hours ago, Borisz said: and their radars. Soviet doctrine during the Cold War did not require the pilot to search for the target himself using on-board radar. The pilot (from both FA and PVO regiments) was guided to the target by Ground Controlled Intercept system operators - sometimes by voice commands, sometimes in the semi-automatic regime (until visual detection of the target), sometimes in the automatic regime - the system could guide to the target, engage, launch the missiles, exit from the attack, return to base. This way of training was cheaper and faster, but it did not give the pilots the autonomy that NATO pilots had. On the other hand, with the vast areas of the USSR and some problems with fighter aircraft detecting low-flying targets, this training logic made a lot of sense. Long story short: asking about the type of on-board radar has little sense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigster Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 You're right Piotr, pilot was just a part of the team (a delivery boy). I guess, those F-102 / F-106 in US worked on the same base level. Go near, and we tell you the next step. Z 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Club Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 I would like also the very first Mig-23s with the longer nose ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Mikolajski Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Aardvark said: By the way, on the Soviet-Chinese border, in some regiments, MiG-27 armed R-60s performed air defense functions, and for Kazakhstani MiG-27s, this is one of the additional tasks. Even in recent years, it sometimes happens that a country with much better fighters, for one reason or another, puts up older aircraft, such as the Su-22M4, as a standby fighter pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borisz Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Alright, I stop the troll feeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Anyhow. How about those ICM Floggers, eh? I'm hoping for at least MF, MLD, UB. BN and MiG-27D, M & K variants. A MS would be nice and offer a lot of Middle Eastern options, but that could be made with filling and rescribing an MF nose. Weaponswise I'd like R-23 /24's, R3/-13's, R-60's and some unguided bombs and rocket pods, with Kh-23/25/27/29's, KAB-500L/KR and MER's for the strike variants. Please. Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stilwell Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Hook said: A MS would be nice and offer a lot of Middle Eastern options, but that could be made with filling and rescribing an MF nose. I understand the nose on the MS was a different, more tapered outline, as well as having the shorter radome. The RV kit of the MS provided the nose separately in resin, and the shape is different from the standard kit. Jonathan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, Stilwell said: I understand the nose on the MS was a different, more tapered outline, as well as having the shorter radome. The RV kit of the MS provided the nose separately in resin, and the shape is different from the standard kit. I must confess with the Mk.1 Eyeball I do not see a huge shape difference between the resin MS nose and the standard radome in my RV MS. Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Any more trolling in this thread will result in repercussions. You know who your are and it ends now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Hook said: Anyhow. How about those ICM Floggers, eh? I'm hoping for at least MF, MLD, UB. BN and MiG-27D, M & K variants. A MS would be nice and offer a lot of Middle Eastern options, but that could be made with filling and rescribing an MF nose. Weaponswise I'd like R-23 /24's, R3/-13's, R-60's and some unguided bombs and rocket pods, with Kh-23/25/27/29's, KAB-500L/KR and MER's for the strike variants. Please. Cheers, Andre I'm with you, Andre. So, talking about the thread subject, I will be happy with a -23MLAE-2 and an MF Martin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, RidgeRunner said: I will be happy with a -23MLAE-2 Wasn't that variant used only by the Bulgarians? If so, it might offer limited appeal to ICM. Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 14 minutes ago, Hook said: Wasn't that variant used only by the Bulgarians? If so, it might offer limited appeal to ICM. Cheers, Andre Libyans 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 hours ago, RidgeRunner said: Libyans You're right!, I was confusing my MiG-23MLAE-2 izdeliye 23-22B's with my MiG-23MLAE-2 izdeliye 23-22A's, as per the Bulgarian examples. ( And people think Bf 109 versions are a minefield... ). The Libyan 23-22B ones lack the vortex generating pitot strakes and wing glove notches of the 23-22A, so externally they should resemble the MLA (anyone getting a headache now is excused). Cheers, Andtr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 That’s right Andre . Thankfully I got plenty of photos of the ski tabs at Mitiga a few years back Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Mikolajski Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) On 10/4/2021 at 11:45 AM, Hook said: Anyhow. How about those ICM Floggers, eh? I'm hoping for at least MF, MLD, UB. BN and MiG-27D, M & K variants. A MS would be nice and offer a lot of Middle Eastern options, but that could be made with filling and rescribing an MF nose. Weaponswise I'd like R-23 /24's, R3/-13's, R-60's and some unguided bombs and rocket pods, with Kh-23/25/27/29's, KAB-500L/KR and MER's for the strike variants. Please. I wouldn't count too much on rarer versions, as well as a large amount of armament on sprues. Edited October 5, 2021 by Piotr Mikolajski Added quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelraynz Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Wonder if they will have the parts for a Mig-23MLG(23-57) 😁 This example has no shortage of markings! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Right for the last time before this thread is closed, can we keep the off topic comments (mainly about the MiG-25) out of the thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Ian- Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Modelraynz said: Wonder if they will have the parts for a Mig-23MLG(23-57) 😁 This example has no shortage of markings! Hmm, think that one might need a few grams more lead in the nose 😁 Edited October 5, 2021 by -Ian- 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) - ref. 72182 - Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23ML "Flogger-G" - release Q4 2022 Source: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/ICM72182 V.P. Edited February 7, 2022 by Homebee 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vultures1 Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 19 hours ago, Homebee said: - ref. 72182 - Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23ML "Flogger-G" - release Q4 2022 Source: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/ICM72182 V.P. Excellent - that's my Christmas 2022 present sorted already 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Any news on this or because of the Clear Prop upcoming kit ICM have given up on the project ? Regards Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiG-Mech Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) I hope not, coz ICM wanted to bring a family, CP wants ML(X) only. I guess the war cause a delay. Edited November 30, 2022 by MiG-Mech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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