Marklo Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) I do enjoy the occasional AFV and haven’t many German tanks in the collection, and so decided I must build a Hetzer. I knew it was derived from the Czech CMK 38 but a little research showed that there many many variants produced. In total about 1400 panzer 38(t)chassis were built and in every conceivable configuration from Bergepanzers through anti aircraft, self propelled guns and of course Jadgpanzers and Marder IIIs ( not I or II) There is also the 38(D) a German variant used for assault guns and antitank weapons. There are also lots of kits including some of the more unusual variants available. Seeing how we don’t seem to have that much Armour STGB proposals for 2022, I thought I’d start one. So the build would be anything built on an LT 35 or 38 chassis or a 36(t), 38(t) or 38(D) chassis or any proposed E-10 vehicle in any scale. I’m really leaning as I go the Swedish Stridsvagn m/41 and the Pansarbandvagn 301 would also qualify as both use licence built 38(t) chassis. 1. @Marklo * 2. @ColonelKrypton * 3. @Stef N. * 4. @Tim R-T-C * 5. @Corsairfoxfouruncle * 6. @Rob S * 7. @Robert Stuart 8. @Mig Eater * 9. @Adam Poultney* 10 @Orso* 11. @fittedkitchens* 12. @sardaukar 13. @f matthews* 14. @PlaStix* 15. @blimp * 16. @sampanzer* 17. @Threadbear* 18. @Jasper dog 19. @Mjwomack * 20. @Jinxman 21. @MARADER * 22. @Maddoxx77* 23. @StuartH 24. @Geo1966 25. @f matthews 26. @IanC* 27. @bigfoot * 27. @Maddoxx77 28. @Ned * denotes members who have reconfirmed or initially said they’d build a 38(t) Edited May 13, 2023 by Marklo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKrypton Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Sounds like fun and I have been known to build the occasional AFV; count me in. cheers, Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef N. Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Me too. Haven't made a Hetzer and there are some great Marder kits out too.👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim R-T-C Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 If you don't mind some 1/144 action I have a 38(t) in the collection at present but might pick up a few more, the Slovak Uprising would make an interesting diorama for sure. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Chalk me in with a prospective Hetzer, in the assault scheme. https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hetzer_lesany.jpg#mw-jump-to-license 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob S Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Having built three Fujimi 38t kits as a kid in the 70s I wouldn’t mind building one as an Adult. Please sign me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim R-T-C Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 11 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Chalk me in with a prospective Hetzer, in the assault scheme. https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hetzer_lesany.jpg#mw-jump-to-license Thats certainly a nutty variation on the assault colours, one can just imagine late war armaments factories dedicating hundreds of man hours to coming up with such a precisely detailed scheme. How will you model the unusual geometric shapes - decals or a stencil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Tim R-T-C said: Thats certainly a nutty variation on the assault colours, one can just imagine late war armaments factories dedicating hundreds of man hours to coming up with such a precisely detailed scheme. How will you model the unusual geometric shapes - decals or a stencil? I was just using it as a basic idea, in the past when Ive done the assault scheme Ive just used a fine tip paint brush to apply a dot. Though I could probably do it with my fine tip A/B now ? If doing the real deal restoration a mask, in WW2 some poor yabbo with a paint brush. Edited October 19, 2021 by Corsairfoxfouruncle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 I did a Panther in the schema a while back, I think I airbrushed the dark yellow but the rest was done with a very fine brush. ( it was 1/72 after all) I’d love to do a 1/35 hetzer in the same scheme. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim R-T-C Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Yes I do like the scheme, I made a 1/144 Panther a while back with a needle used for colouring the spots. It was the very unusual variation in the linked Wikipedia picture that fascinated me. The dots are instead geometric shapes which must have been a lot of work to apply in 1/1 but almost impossible to freehand in scale. Not sure if this is an authentic scheme or not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 OK, I'm tempted here, the Czech chassis had some interesting developments - plus I haven't built one. OK I'm, in. BTW On 23/09/2021 at 10:07, Marklo said: Seeing how we don’t seem to have any Armour STGB proposals for 2022, I thought I’d start one. Not sure if they were in the running when this was said, but now we have two: an M3/M4 proposal and a Leopard Tank proposal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 8 hours ago, Robert Stuart said: Not sure if they were in the running when this was said, but now we have two: an M3/M4 proposal and a Leopard Tank proposal. My mistake, duly edited and added. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Eater Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 How about including the 38(d) in the GB too? It was a larger German version of the 38(t), production was planed for late 1945 but the war ended before the prototype was built. Amusing Hobby have release 3 different 38(d) kits & there were many more variants planned, so plenty of options. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 15 hours ago, Mig Eater said: How about including the 38(d) in the GB too? I’d say yes as it’s a derived chassis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Poultney Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 I rarely build tanks, and generally don't sign up to group builds for them but I do really like the Pz38(t) and Hetzer. I built a 1/56 one earlier this year. Sign me up 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 2023 needs some armour and I need an excuse to buy a hetzer you know you want to! Yes I am being naughty and shamelessly bumping my threads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 A shameless bump, 2023 needs some armour and so far this and the entropy build proposal are all that’s out there. Both would make superb GBs so c’min guys let’s get them both over the line. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Well bumped Mark. You can add my name for some non-German version of the cute little tank. Maybe a Czech one! Entropy isn't just for armour by the way, we all get it sooner or later! 🤣 (Seriously, all genres are welcome in that one.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Bertie Psmith said: Entropy isn't just for armour by the way, we all get it sooner or later! 🤣 Tbh every time I see the title I’m reminded of three things:- The scene in the hitchhiker’s guide to the galaxy ( the radio series) where Ford dnd Zsphod find the spaceport on the planet of the bird people and Zaphod describes it as all rust and wreckage. Second year thermodynamics, which I initially hated but learned to love once I actually started to understand it. Completely blowing a job interview when asked the difference between Entropy and Enthalpy, the answer to which I have never forgotten since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie McBoatface Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 For those who don't do German stuff of WWII there are colourful alternatives for the LT vz.35. I dig that particular scheme, because it looks like a cabbage patch! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fittedkitchens Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Wouldn't mind joining this GB. Thanks. It'll most likely be a grey Panzer 38t... wild & crazy, huh? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bertie Psmith said: there are colourful alternatives for the LT vz.3 I like that very reminiscent of the late WWI German stuff. I’m now googling Hetzers and thinking I need a few more German tanks in my 1/35 collection. Hmm all I have in the stash is a PZKW II, and a Hannomag (which is earmarked for the half track gb) actually besides those two and the three tanks I have in WIP all that’s left is a Tamiya Valentine. Hmm need to rectify that. Edited March 15, 2022 by Marklo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sardaukar Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I will support this for sure, any armour build is good but the more obscure the better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f matthews Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 I’d definitely be in. Call the GB “Czech It Out” or something… Ok, that was lame, but I’d absolutely be down for a 35 and/or a 38(t). 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 8 hours ago, f matthews said: Ok, that was lame I’d say more tacky than lame. But nonetheless a good suggestion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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