Goji308 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) I started another one of my Uboat kits that I bought from a local store that acquired it from an estate acquisition. I believe this kit was available around 2003. After opening it up I noticed all the sprue came in one bag. One of the sprue were heavy on the flash. A few of the same parts on the sprue had some pretty visible pits/ voids. The styrene feels a little brittle. Some of the fine edges are chipped. It’s anyone’s guess if a previous owner moved the box or handled the contents over the last 30 years before I happened to purchase this kit on a hobby store shelf. Multiple holes in the propeller. Edited September 15, 2021 by Goji308 Added photo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Not the best quality moulding 🤨 but based on your last build, this is just a small bump in the road to success 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goji308 Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, Alan P said: Not the best quality moulding 🤨 but based on your last build, this is just a small bump in the road to success 👍 Alan, ha thank you. You are too kind and I hope your right. This model is coming along a little faster than the last. Funny how that works. I sanded everything I used filler on, and added another round of filler. That should do it. I started removing the material in the slots that run along the hull body. You can see in this picture where I removed the material entirely (left side) and where I thinned the slots just before breaking through the plastic. Light or sunlight help for accuracy when plotting your plastic removal course. My last Uboat (IXC) I had planned/ debated on putting a few bands of medium grey for camouflage on the upper hull but did not execute that step. For this VIIC build I will add the camouflage bands to the upper hull for sure. I am not entirely sure how many stripes i will put down as of yet. (To be determined) I am leaning towards the U-82 or the U-253. Here I have started the light oil canning to the hull by scratching it carefully with a scalpel and then coming back through with various sanding. Edited September 15, 2021 by Goji308 Misspelled a word 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adm Lord De Univers Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, Alan P said: Not the best quality moulding This made me chuckle, it's more flash than mould!😂 Signing up for another master class. Oh and being International Democracy Day, I'll take the liberty of voting for U-82 please (I wouldn't myself mind, even without brittle plastic, but it looks more visually interesting). David Edited September 15, 2021 by Adm Lord De Univers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goji308 Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 The rest of the Uboat has been scraped, oil canned, and I added texture to the steel plates. I reduced the rivets height by a light sand. I found a few more parts that needed filling & sanding. The propeller shafts are completely out of round. I sanded them quite aggressively with a file and sanded them smooth so they fit where they are intended to go. I might replace the shafts. The two hull pieces are glued together. A few spots had to be glued again separately. I had to add glue and clamps to the far edges of the uboat as they were lightly warped. There was too much pressure to do it all in one shot. I have airbrushed the interior of the hull with black primer. The rear vertical rudder holes & Base mounting holes have been located and drilled. *** I have been reading another uboat book called The odyssey of a Uboat commander by Erich Topp. Fascinating read so far. The author does mention the uboat deck coating by code name, “Alberich”. The coating is approximately 4mm thick, applied to the deck and helps in reflecting radar & sonar pulses. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelD Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 U 1105, the Black Panther, contains a fair amount of detail on Alberich, the snorkel and GHG Balkon, a passive sonar array. 1105 was the only sub to have these 3 innovative ideas fitted. Alberich was a rubber coating applied over the entire sub, not just the deck. It had holes of various sizes, size and pattern, being determined by location. It was also tuned to a specific depth where it would be most effective. Fascinating read. Nigel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goji308 Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) Nigel, Thank you for the additional information. Yes, that book is still on my list to get. I look forward to reading it. I look forward to learning more about the specifics. I have several books on my night stand I have to read first. Edited September 17, 2021 by Goji308 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goji308 Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) I assembled some of the rudders and their supports. Anything in this kit that is supposed to be round or close to round is not. I spent over an hour last night with a caliper trying to pre-fit all the periscopes etc. .010 to .020 difference in thickness on some of parts. That took a while. This weekend more sanding. I sprayed the model with a primer coat to help me see my prep work or lack there of. I still witnessed scrape marks from my scalpel on my canning so I went back through the model and sanded strategically again. Rough spots Next time I will do this operation before I assemble anything together . Edited September 19, 2021 by Goji308 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goji308 Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 On 9/15/2021 at 12:21 PM, Adm Lord De Univers said: I'll take the liberty of voting for U-82 please (I wouldn't myself mind, even without brittle plastic, but it looks more visually interesting). David David, the U-82 it will be. I appreciate the recommendation. (I was leaning that way too). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinBizz4786_ Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) Nice beginning mate ! My ultimate wish is to build a VII C 1/72 U Boot in dry son in one of these U Boot Pens (U-Bunker in German) Edited September 22, 2021 by VinBizz4786_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goji308 Posted September 23, 2021 Author Share Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) White primer. Added pre-shading. I was doing well then.. Bloopfff…. Airbrush threw up. I made a mistake. While adding color, I got a little to complacent with not cleaning / checking the tip. I tried spraying over it, the splat didn’t blend in at all. So I let it dry, sanded it lightly with 600 grit sandpaper, and touched it up. It’s like it never happened. When my mistake dried I actually kind of liked the look of it and it probably would have been fine. The splat might of even looked cool during the weathering phase. I made some new model working fixtures at lunch today at work and they are working well. It seemed like every time I touched the model lately I am breaking off a rudder or a part. Two steps forward, one step back. Good grief! I will add some adhesive backed foam strips to the contact points to protect the model. Anyway I’m still making progress and learning a bunch as I go. Edited September 23, 2021 by Goji308 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman 29 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 I like the electrolytic corrosion effect, even if it was not intended. Very realistic, worth remembering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goji308 Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) Well yesterday I ate a whole plate of humble pie. My predicament started after I masked my uboat to receive 2-3 coats of worn effects. I have both AK “worn effects” & “heavy chipping”. I think I was expecting WE to behave like HC and it did not come off that easy. I started trying to agitate the surface with little effect, kept trying, and then I noticed a little area was chipping. The white primer was coming through in spots. Oof. At this point the area I was working on became sacrificial and I started trying different things. For the love of Noah please come off!! So now it just looked like…not how I wanted it to look. (Biting tongue-fighting the words back). Too cool off from my failings I decided to clean my airbrush. While putting the gun back together I could not find the spring. This has never happened before mind you. So now I am speaking the forbidden language of Ming the Merciless. I cleaned my whole workbench, crawled all over the floor with a flashlight, sifted through my trash bin like a forensic investigator. Went through my drawers and looked at the airbrush cleaning bristles and there was my missing spring. Omg!! 30 minutes later. I primed over my failed chipping panel and called it a night. Tonight when I got home from work I decided to put down a light coat of varnish in hopes to protect my rusty steel base color. I went through the process again for chipping. Sprayed 3 coats heavy chipping, let dry, paint several coats of hull color, let dry, then went through and tried getting comfortable with my chipping tools. A sponge & a toothbrush turned out to be my favorites today. anyway, thanks for looking as I crawl forward Edited September 25, 2021 by Goji308 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Gidday, that's an interesting place to store a spring. I've misplaced stuff in the past, spent ages looking for it, only to find it right in front of me! And although I prefer beef and onion pies myself I guess we all need to eat the humble variety at sometime. Looking forward to seeing more progress. Regards, Jeff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinBizz4786_ Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Pretty nice effect ! I didn't kenw this technic ! I will use for my U-boats !! Nice work buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goji308 Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) Short version: Primed again painted again Masked for camo rinse, repeat. added camo stripes. Long version: I find myself unsure of the story I’m trying to tell with my model. This is something I would like to have in mind as I work towards it. From the start that is. I apologize for anyone who is watching this build real-time to see me 2nd guess details & solidify my thoughts as I go. I weathered my lower hull pretty dramatically which is generally underwater. I do want to portray a heavily weathered Uboat. I decided to re-primer my model last night. I am imagining my Uboat showing more weather and stress effects above the waterline vs below. So today I have re painted, re chipped, & added the upper hull color. I think this is closer to what I had in mind. I did still add some chipping to the lower just not as much. The heaviest chipping near the anchor intake. I masked the upper hull for the camo pattern to resemble U-82. I removed the masking tape and observed the tape pulling the weak spots of my previous work on the upper hull. Note to self; next time I will account for the this and will chip less. After all the dust settled I am happy with the camo pattern. I got. After this photo was taken I reduced some of the chipping in the lower hull carefully. Im satisfied. Edited September 27, 2021 by Goji308 Added photo 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinBizz4786_ Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Hello fella ! Wonderful paintjob here ! Can you tell me witch colors did you have used for the upper hull and the camouflage please ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goji308 Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 On 9/27/2021 at 7:03 AM, VinBizz4786_ said: Can you tell me witch colors did you have used for the upper hull and the camouflage please ? I used a combination of paints but used mostly Tamiya Sky and German grey on the upper. I added some shadows and highlights. I bought a new replacement PE deck gun for this build. I am looking forward to it. The parts are incredibly small. Yikes. last night after using my airbrush I was in the process of cleaning and putting it back together and I noticed my trigger was screwed up. No idea how this happened. The only thing that possibly could cause this is possibly I dropped it in the floor? I ordered a replacement today Good grief! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve5 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 that airbrush really is giving you grief , love what you are doing with the colour scheme too . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goji308 Posted October 1, 2021 Author Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) Steve, yes, most likely I’m responsible for the issues. I have added another layer of shadows on the hull and have been working on the plastic deck. Does anyone have any recommendation where I might find a wood deck for this kit? Thanks in advance. More pictures coming soon. Edited October 1, 2021 by Goji308 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planebuilder62 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Nautilus Models in the USA? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adm Lord De Univers Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 I only found nautilus as well, unless you want the pontos kit which includes a wood deck. https://www.scalemates.com/kits/pontos-model-72001f1-u-boot-type-vii-c-detail-up-set--961559 https://www.scalemates.com/kits/nautilus-models-72-501-type-viic-wood-deck-revell-germany-5015--237345 Not sure where you might get it though, I could only find it on their website with other places sold out. David 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goji308 Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) Thanks guys for the recommendations and your time. The deck offered by Nautilus USA is the only one I found as well. I am undecided at this point and may attempt to make one or use the included plastic deck. I have almost completed the Eduards 8.8cm deck gun and I don’t know if I’m a fan of photo etched parts. I know I will not be rushing out to purchase another PE kit anytime soon. I am sure there is a process and a learning curve. Some of the kit went together smoothly and other parts of the kit had me wondering what am I missing here. A third hand could have been helpful in spots. Anyway, glad it’s done and almost behind me. I hope the effort was worth it. Here are a few extras, high detail printed parts I picked up from SW to upgrade some of the low detailed parts that came with my kit. I also picked up some isolators and periscopes not shown in the photo below. Both the Eduards and some of the parts from SW will need some adapting to fit into Revells stock parts in order for them to fit. this morning. This morning I filed a flange of the deck and opened up a hole diameter. Nothing too difficult. Less than a year ago one of the uboats builds here in the forums from the past inspired me to get into making uboat models. I came across Tristan’s Uboat build and was inspired, moved, & motivated. After that I started buying 1:72 uboat kits, gear, paints, brushes, an airbrush, compressor, tape, tweezers, a dremel, glue, books, etc.. and more of course. (Cringing at all my receipts). It’s been a fun journey so far and I appreciate all of you for your posts, friendships, shared information, tips, & advice, that help guys like me with two left hands. Edited October 3, 2021 by Goji308 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinBizz4786_ Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) So the camouflage color is just Dark Grey XF-63 ? or you add anther color with? And sky Grey also with antoher color ? Or did you use these 2 colors as base tints ? And nice work on the 88 gun ! Congrats Edited October 3, 2021 by VinBizz4786_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adm Lord De Univers Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 15 hours ago, Goji308 said: I hope the effort was worth it. It was! Looks amazing David 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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