JeroenS Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 OK guys, I'm actually going to build my second aircraft since I was a kid. I remember building some planes when I was young but let's say the results are not among us anymore. They never lasted long 🙂  But I'm certain I built a Viggen back then, because I thought (and still think) that it's one cool looking beasty. I may even have built this very kit as the original dates back to 1977!  I know my truck build will keep me occupied but I will still try my best to make something of the Viggen and get it into the gallery. It will be an OOB build because I know very little about aircraft, and I don't want to lose time over it either. The Spitfire I built for Spitfire STGB needs some company in my display cabinet and I feel a Viggen is a worthy addition.  I purchased Heller's newest re-release yesterday, it should take about a week and a half to arrive I've been told. No worries, plenty to do in the meantime 🙂      13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christer A Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Nice to see Hellers old Viggen still going strong! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Great choice Jeroen, wouldn't be right to not have a Viggen in the GB and being a newer release from Heller the decals should be of good quality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, modelling minion said: the decals should be of good quality. That's good to know! I never look forward to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 OMG!!!!  Its glad I was sitting down when I saw this thread...... Jerome building a plane....and a Viggen as well!!!!    Well this is a surprise and a nice one as well...... and finally a Viggen.... which i agree has to be one of the coolest looking planes ever built.  Hopefully this build will inspire more people to go and bring along their Viggen!  Good luck with her, and if you need help with where the wings go.........  1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paramedic Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Nice to see! One of those kits I saw in the local stores as a kid - but never built.. (Was more into Spitfires then!) Lovelly to see you do it here instead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlin Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Great choice Jeroen, you just made my day. Good luck with your build. /Bosse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Excellent subject choice Jeroen  As Rich says this has to be one of the coolest looking aircraft to ever fly.  On 9/11/2021 at 11:06 PM, trickyrich said: Good luck with her, and if you need help with where the wings go.........  Back to front in this case 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reini Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 A plane? Again? Why won't you build a truck for a change? 😉  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, reini said: A plane? Again? Why won't you build a truck for a change? 😉  Yeah I know, it's so predictable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted September 23, 2021 Author Share Posted September 23, 2021 Got the Viggen in the mail today. It's the new Heller boxing so the box looks quite nice. It's JA-37 which is described as "the perfected version".  You probably all know what the sprues look like but let's do them anyway.  Fuselage.   Those nice big wings. I think I like how the bottom of the wing is part of the lower fuselage as well.   The small stuff.   Clear parts and decals. Crappy pics, I know.   Paint guide.   So, question for you guys. Top colour is listed as Humbrol 127 which should translate into Tamiya's XF-19 Sky Grey which I happen to have so that's a bonus. Bottom colour is described as Humbrol 127 mixed with white. How much lighter should this be? Is there a standard colour that I could use?   8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paramedic Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Looking good. Yes there is a standard colour - if you have Gunze or Mr. paint. Hold on! Â Gunze: Â Dark Grey H-307 Light Grey H-338 Â Mr Paint: Â MRP-220 (032M) MRP-221 (033M) Â I used the mRP here: Â Â Shitty pics, sorry. Seems a little darker (bad light) than it is in real life - and i weathered it a bit.. Weird. Â I have painted a J 35J with Gunze - gave it away and have no pics. But as far as I remember, i liked those too! Â Â Â Â 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted September 24, 2021 Author Share Posted September 24, 2021 10 hours ago, Paramedic said: Looking good. Yes there is a standard colour - if you have Gunze or Mr. paint. Hold on!  Gunze:  Dark Grey H-307 Light Grey H-338  Mr Paint:  MRP-220 (032M) MRP-221 (033M) Thanks! I have neither but will try to see if they have an equivalent for Tamiya or Vallejo which are the paints I have. My LHS has no Gunze or MRP so no easy (postage free) access to those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paramedic Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 I don´t know those others very well for that kind of painting (I use valejo and Citadell for brush painting though) - so don´t know their equivalent. But there should be some I hope.  XF-53 is mentioned for one of them here. No idea how accurate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted September 24, 2021 Author Share Posted September 24, 2021 See this is why I build trucks... no colour issues there 🙂  So Heller says "light ghost grey" on top, but that paint is the equivalent of the H-338 you used on the bottom (which should be XF-19, sky grey which makes sense on the underside I guess). The "dark ghost grey" goes on top, which is the Tamiya XF-53 (neutral grey), hmm I don't have that one, but at least a quick trip to the LHS should solve that issue.  Edit: MRP-221 / MRP-220 combination seems to match the Tamiya XF-53 / XF-19, so I guess I'll go with those. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paramedic Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Sounds good. With scale, maybe some weathering and shades - it will look right I´m sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 going to one of the good bibles for colour information..  https://www.ipmsstockholm.se/home/urbans-color-reference-charts-part-i/urbans-colour-reference-charts-sweden/Basically  Basically you use XF-19 for the undersides, and mix of 50:50 XF-25 & XF-66 for the upper surfaces.  For Humbrol, Hu.147 underside and Hu.128 upper.  I wouldn't get too excited about the exact ratios for the top colours, as the paint jobs aged they would change hue, so even if it's not perfect it'll be fine.  You could have been brave and done a "splinter" scheme!!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 7 hours ago, trickyrich said: You could have been brave and done a "splinter" scheme!!!! Ha! yeah right.... maybe I will call it "the mythical splinter scheme"  Anyway, thanks for yet another colour instruction 🙂 .... You do realize that I biked to my LHS yesterday and got the XF-53! I'm afraid have neither the XF-25 nor the XF-66. That's another €8,80 for a side build! Hmm. XF-25 is Light Sea Grey, XF-66 is Light Grey.  I think I'll secretly mix XF-2 White, the XF-53 (Neutral Grey) I got yesterday with a drop of XF-23 (Light Blue) and see if you can tell the difference 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Or you could go for an early natural metal scheme. That'd be so much simpler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 10 hours ago, Col. said: Or you could go for an early natural metal scheme. That'd be so much simpler Hmm... I think I'll take a pass on that one and just stick with the grey... Little darker on the top than on the bottom... I'll work it out somehow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paramedic Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 21 hours ago, trickyrich said: going to one of the good bibles for colour information..  https://www.ipmsstockholm.se/home/urbans-color-reference-charts-part-i/urbans-colour-reference-charts-sweden/Basically  Basically you use XF-19 for the undersides, and mix of 50:50 XF-25 & XF-66 for the upper surfaces.  For Humbrol, Hu.147 underside and Hu.128 upper.  I wouldn't get too excited about the exact ratios for the top colours, as the paint jobs aged they would change hue, so even if it's not perfect it'll be fine.  You could have been brave and done a "splinter" scheme!!!!  Yeah, loads of weather and aged airframes. F 4 Wing especially iirc.. Splinter was less common on JAs but they existed (for a reason too! Harder to tell what took off, JAs aor AJs? Atleast if you only saw splinter..) There was even one splinter JA 37Di - it is still around - at Ugglarp. 37326. And she´s beautiful (first Di too!)  13 hours ago, Col. said: Or you could go for an early natural metal scheme. That'd be so much simpler  Don´t think JAs flew like that really.. AJs did - for a while. There was probably some JAs at FC in NMF though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 Ah, the feeling of "what have I gotten myself into now".... I cut the big parts off the sprues to make a start and to check the fit, after all this is a Heller kit.  The fuselage parts fit well enough from the top.   Let's turn them around.   Oops.   Oh boy... there's definitely something off there. The right side of the fuselage (here on the left) is pretty warped. This is going to need some TLC. Well, a lot. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paramedic Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Oof.. Very little experience from Heller.. Those and Airfix, of course, plus Matchbox were the ones availble in my two toyshops in town as a kid.. Well, and some italeri and Revell too. I bought a Heller or two and had trouble like this iirc.. Even as a kid I realized Airfix (also issues though)Â and preferrably Matchbox was my thing back then.. Â You can carefully put it in semi-warm water and reshape it..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Hopefully a bit of taping and clamping will see you right there Jeroen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeroenS Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, Col. said: Hopefully a bit of taping and clamping will see you right there Jeroen. Yes, I've pushed and pulled a little already, I'm going to put some extra strips in and rely on the power of TET 🙂 .... Looks like it will be fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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