Was there a wartime badge for 2TAF?

[Procopius]

I was looking to maybe get a custom display base made with the crest of 2TAF on it, but all the examples I see are postwar. Was there a wartime version of the badge?

[Seawinder]

I can't imagine why the badge would have changed after its inception, presumably during the war. If you're looking at the badge being displayed on aircraft, I don't think that happened much, if at all, until the war was over.

[bentwaters81tfw]

Drop a line to  he has my copy of the wartime history of 2TAF, there may be something in that.

 

Alert Brainfart  Bish has my copy of 2 Group in WW2

[Procopius]

17 minutes ago, Seawinder said:

I can't imagine why the badge would have changed after its inception, presumably during the war. If you're looking at the badge being displayed on aircraft, I don't think that happened much, if at all, until the war was over.

Well, the postwar badge's motto is "Keeping the Peace", which seems stunningly inappropriate for a wartime formation. I just want it to put on a wooden display base, not the model.

[SteveBrooking]

Did you Google?

There is an image of the badge on the Wikipaedia page.

You may need to check with Air Historical Branch to get a more substantial copy...

[Procopius]

9 minutes ago, SteveBrooking said:

Did you Google?

There is an image of the badge on the Wikipaedia page.

Yes, the postwar badge, with the postwar motto and queen's crown.

[Troy Smith]

6 hours ago, Procopius said:

Was there a wartime version of the badge?

That I would venture is a @Chris Thomas question, as one of the authors of a 4 part work on the 2nd TAF, he'd be a good chap to ask.

[brewerjerry]

Hi

   vaguely i think there was a time pre req ,

 unit had to exist for 3yrs or 5yrs ? 

  before a request could be submitted

      but i could be wrong 

      cheers

         jerry 

[Blimpyboy]

 

I did find some 2TAF 'merch' that shows the badge with a King's crown, but couldn't find any information regarding the timeframe or history of those badges (I note that the motto in the merch is 'keepers of the peace', which doesn't jibe with a wartime formation).

 

Just a random, uninformed guess - maybe 2TAF didn't get their badge authorised until shortly after the Big One. I can only assume there's some information in the UK's/RAF's heraldry records that may provide the information you seek.

 

 

From: https://www.giftshop.uk.com/2nd-tactical-air-force/2taf-raf-lapel.html

 

 

From: https://www.terrane.co.uk/.2-TAF-CREST-STICKER_STC1984.htm

 

 

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Edited September 11, 2021 by Blimpyboy

[Rob G]

Trying again, for the 9th (seriously) time, including 3 attempts at sending a PM.

Given the requirements for the issuing of an RAF badge, it's not a big surprise that 2.TAF didn't get one during the war - they may have had other things to occupy their time... The one that's been found (above) wasn't issued until January 1953, which will explain the somewhat un-warlike motto.

More info about 2.TAF's badge here
http://www.rafht.co.uk/index.php/2016/06/21/second-tactical-air-force-2nd-taf/

And some gen on RAF badges and the process for awarding of same
https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/blog/heraldic-badges-in-the-raf/

HTH, even if it's not 'good' news.

Edit: Holy Batcows, it worked!