adolfocaetanonetto Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Hi, people. This is my first work that I will post as I make the model, one U-boat Type VII C, in 1/100 scale. The others modelings that I have int he forun are ready, and IO go posting the pictures that I have in computer. This model has been starting now. Its an old dream, and now I realize him! 😍. However my wife call me mad, I go on! In Brazil we say "I will not teach the priest to pray", when we know that the other people knows what is being talked about. (I hope that is clear... 🙄). So I dont explain about the u-boat. Lets go to the modeling. First I print a drawing in the correct scale. The model will be 67 cm lenght. I cut the deck in cardboard - three pieces was glued each other to give strength. ) Later, I make a reinforcement to the deck, with a thick cardboard (in Brazil we call him "parana paper"). The piece is glued in "V" and attached with a thin cardboard, like the picture. The reinforcement is glued under the deck. Others reinforcements was made and glued. You can see that the line deck isnt straight. The bow is higher than the stern. To attache the hull pieces I make lots of cardboard reinforcements. Them will glued in the border of under surface deck. The reinforcements was glued, but the photo is bad. But we have a comparison with my keyboard and mouse. Its so big! Now I make the strutural reinforcement - in portuguese we call him ship caves; I dont know the real name in english. With the figure I hope that you will understand. I build the pieces with foam. The pieces in correct local. In this photo we can see better the cardboard reinforcements. Everuthing ready to start the hull. I never build anything so big. Realy its big! I hope my wife doesnt make me choose between the marriage or the model! 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Good work. 👍 You might be interested to know that there is a guy here in Perth who is a true master of ship modelling who builds all of his his models almost exactly as you are doing. The only real difference is he constructs the entire thing, including the external skin, from balsa. I conclude that your method seems very sensible to me and I think this will turn out really well. I will watch with interest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adolfocaetanonetto Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 Thanks. 1 hour ago, Bandsaw Steve said: Good work. 👍 You might be interested to know that there is a guy here in Perth who is a true master of ship modelling who builds all of his his models almost exactly as you are doing. The only real difference is he constructs the entire thing, including the external skin, from balsa. I conclude that your method seems very sensible to me and I think this will turn out really well. I will watch with interest. LOL! Wood balsa is much expesive in Brazil (how everything in this stupid country... sorry by the words, but this country is horrible, actually). I use, but in locals that I think necessary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Actually I think balsa is expensive everywhere which is just one of the reasons I use it very sparingly. Stay with your method - which I think is exactly the right one - and your preferred materials. This is going to come out great! 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adolfocaetanonetto Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 Building the hull, with pieces of cardboard gluedin the reinforcements of the deck. After I glued other reinforcement under the hull piece. I was glueing new pieces in the hull, in the both sides, left and right, or port and starboard. In the middle of the ship, in front of the tower, there is a expanded part of the deck; in this local, I cut the local. Stern hull. Continuing the hull, in bow and in midship. To closed the bottom of the hull, I cut a piece of cardboard that will reforce the hull - paper A See the paper A inside the hull - I dont glue him; simply I put him there. So, the pieces that make the hull dont folding or bending. I make some paper pieces for this. Stern. Hull almost ready. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Gidday, that's a very interesting method you have used. And I see that you have all the necessities on hand - coffee! 🙂 I am looking forward to seeing more progress. Regards, Jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adolfocaetanonetto Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, ArnoldAmbrose said: Gidday, that's a very interesting method you have used. And I see that you have all the necessities on hand - coffee! 🙂 I am looking forward to seeing more progress. Regards, Jeff. Coffee in the cup, and Rick Astley in Spotfy, I sware. I love his dancing ballads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, adolfocaetanonetto said: Coffee in the cup, and Rick Astley in Spotfy, I sware. I love his dancing ballads. Love your work! ❤️ Not so sure about your music! 🤔 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adolfocaetanonetto Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 7 hours ago, Bandsaw Steve said: Love your work! ❤️ Not so sure about your music! 🤔 My fault! 🥸 But I dont apologise... 😃 Everybody has their dark side!!! 😆 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adolfocaetanonetto Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 News of the front, with more mounting of my U-boat, finalizing the bow and stern fo the hull. I cut and glued a piece of cardboard folded in "V". I forget take a photo of the piece. I build a little curved piece, the nose of the bow (with two half, left and right, id this meaning anything...) - If I dont clear, guys, say me. I cut a piece to glued in the marked place with a arrow. In this picture is possible see the frontal folded piece. As I making the model, there are locals without cardboard, where I glued a simple paper piece, cut to adapt to the local. Following the mounting. Bow ready In the middle of the ship, I closed the space of the deck extension, with a simple cardboard piece Closing the stern hull, with the same tech: cardboard pieces cut to adapt to the local 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adolfocaetanonetto Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 New update in my U-boat. The keel. A long strip of double thick cardboard (two strips glued each other). I glue one piece in the strip to reinforcement and to give the correct height I this time, I sanded the model. In front and in rear, I made the reinforcements to maintain the keel straight. To closed the sides of the keel, I glued cardboard strips inside the keel. In the keel front I made a "ramp". And I cut and guled a cardboard piece (the same cardboard that I used in the hull. In the front and rear I made a "ramp"; later I repeat the process to closed the sides. Detail of the deck extension (I dont know why I take this photo early!!!🙄) My baby is grow up! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goji308 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Your Uboat is shaping up. Keep up the good work. I am looking forward to more of your progress. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Gidday, I like the way you made the keel. The model is shaping up more with each post. Regards, Jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 That’s an impressive demonstration of what can be be made with just cardboard and paper. Your U-Boat is looking great! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Agreed! Think what he could do with bits of MDF and Jarrah. 🙂 Regards, Jeff. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adolfocaetanonetto Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 2 hours ago, ArnoldAmbrose said: Agreed! Think what he could do with bits of MDF and Jarrah. 🙂 Regards, Jeff. I try used wood, plastics and similars, Arnold, But I thought a hard work. The material are difficult to cut and glued...😬 I stay with papers, and I'm very old to change!!! 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 And your way you don’t have to buy a bandsaw! 😃 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 26 minutes ago, adolfocaetanonetto said: nd I'm very old to change!!! No, never too old. 🙂 Although I understand a tendency to stay with preferred methods and materials. With me it's mainly styrene (plastic) but I've been considering wood for hulls of ships I can't get kits of in my preferred scale (1/600). I think each material has good points and bad, I think it all comes down to what each of us like. I'm looking forward to seeing what you do for details, such as guns, screws/propellers and such. Regards, Jeff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adolfocaetanonetto Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 A little update, where I was made the anchor site. First, I applied wall texture, that I use like putty. The stupid Adolfo forget take photos, but I will try explain. After the "putty", a lot of sandpaper until the 320 granulation. After sand, I applied varnish spray, and more sandpaper 320. In the next picture, you can see how the model looks. Also you see the drawing of the anchor site, only in the starboard side. The little paper is a shape that I cut to help the drawing (early I made the drawing in wrong position - my fault). The both torpedo hatch was drawing (I will make them closed) The anchor site is cut of I made a piece of cardboard, to adapt in the anchor local. The piece is concave, like the real model; to make the shape concave, I was cut the board and glue common paper. The "A" piece (it is curved) is glued in the other side and I repeat the process cuts/glue/paper; after I attached the "A" in the concave piece. I hope that my explain will be clear! 🤔 Finally the piece was glued in the hole (The submarine hole... please dont understand worng things!!!!!!!!!!!😜). I sanded to finish any ppaer burr (si correct?). 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Hi, Good progress and an interesting illustration of how an apparently simple shape (a submarine is just a tube right?) is actually very complex when you try to make one from scratch. I'm also a fan of paper, but would have used thin aluminium sheeting for this type of model. I'm interested to see how you cut the hundreds of holes needed, the main reason I've been put off modelling subs in the past... Cheers Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adolfocaetanonetto Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 23/09/2021 at 05:03, Steve D said: Hi, Good progress and an interesting illustration of how an apparently simple shape (a submarine is just a tube right?) is actually very complex when you try to make one from scratch. I'm also a fan of paper, but would have used thin aluminium sheeting for this type of model. I'm interested to see how you cut the hundreds of holes needed, the main reason I've been put off modelling subs in the past... Cheers Steve Thanks, Steve! Me too interested with the lots and lots of holes...😬. How I pretend made them? I dont know!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😮 I use the paper because I think that it's... "docile", easy to cut, to glue, to paint. And if I make a mistake, I make another piece, without much worry 😉. But we are come back to the sub. I made the reinforcements of the both sides (I realy dont know what is this things). First I draw the correct local to glue the pieces. Later I glued the internal reinforcements, with thin cardboard. The syringe (I learn a new word in english) is full of glue, that I used to attach the pieces. In the bow, I begin glue the pieces of cardboard. First I glued the upper board. Later I glue the bottom, and attach a internal reinforcement. I cut the bottom board until it to fits in the correct local. In sequence, I glue the next piece, same the previous piece. The reinforcement is to attach the pieces each other. To close the front side, I glue three pieces (A, B, C - someone remember the Jacksons Five?), same the others. Towards the stern until finish this part. Ready. I make the same in the other side. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 good luck with your build, great start 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adolfocaetanonetto Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 Continuing the mounting, I build the cheeks (another word learned 😆), that I think its the fuel tanks. I drawing the contour of the tanks, with help of one my secretaries - I have four (yes, FOUR, besides two problems, I mean, children 🤫), because I'm very busy and much important! 🧐. Reinforments glued. I cut and glued two pieces of cardboard ("A" and "B") to start. In sequence, I made the internal reinforcements and a third piece "C", like the "A". A long strip of cardboard ("D") was glued from "A" to "B". I repeat in the front ("E"). I cut cardboard squares ("F") and I glued them. In sequence, I will repeat the process with the "G". After, I cuted and attached other long strip ("H") to close the back of the fuel tank. And glued others pieces in the ampty spaces. But in the front (in the right side of the photo), the things start to go wrong! I chose glued some longs strips like "D" and "E" to close this part of the fuel tanks. I thought it would be easy. But... The result was catastrophic. I needed glue several cardboard pieces to reinforce the fuel tank. lots os sand paper, putty, more sandpaper, and the local was soft like a party balloon. In the other side, I made like the first process, that worked (you remember? Pieces A, B, A, D, and etc...🤨) The pieces was glued in the upside and the bottom. After, I made the internal reiforcements I will show how I closed the empty spaces... I dont know why I didnt do it before. This way was how I closed all empty spaces. But lets go. I cut the piece ("I") and I was cutting and adapting it on local With the piece "I" ready, lots of glue was applied in the reinforcements and attached it. And we take a better result! But some locals were still soft; and some cardboard pieces (a few) solved the problem. To finish, lots of "putty" (wall texture) and sandpaper. But the idiot forget take a photo of the final result. How I made more steps of the mounting (but I dont edited the photos), I'm in debt! 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adolfocaetanonetto Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) Ok, fellas. new update in my mounting. Here I build the deck, and its hundred tiny holes... 🙄. First I cut the deck shape in cardboard. To make it easier, I cut the deck shape in two parts. I print a image of deck to my guide; the image is a promotional picture by a photoetch from shop websites. In sequence I will draw the marks of the deck. First I passed a scalpel in the correct locals, with a ruler; but I dont let the scalpel cut the paper, only scratch a line. After, I draw the scrtched lines with a automatic pencil 0,9 (I pressed the pencil tightly. The automatic pencil 0,9 is my main tool to draw. Deck ready! Deck in position. I glued it with scholar glue (or PVA glue, white glue, craft glue... or whatever😜). After drying, I applied super glue in the draw lines; my hope is that its deeply marked to appears in the painting. In Brazil we say that this is a "prisioners work", because its hard and boring! Edited September 30, 2021 by adolfocaetanonetto Correction 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Gidday, those deck markings must have taken a while, but they look very neat. Regards, Jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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