PhantomBigStu Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 (edited) As per the title, going to be doing some spitfire bashing. XI will be a long term thing but will be starting the XII soonish, just waiting for some primer to dry and to acquire the final parts Edited December 31, 2022 by PhantomBigStu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted September 7, 2021 Author Share Posted September 7, 2021 Most of the parts acquired in one place 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phat trev Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Useful pile of Spitfire parts to start your project good luck with the conversions. There are a few Spitfire XIIs being built on here so it will be good to see them all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beard Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 I'm interested to see how you do the XII (I kit-bashed a Sword Seafire XV and AZ IX, plus some bits from the spares box). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Beard said: I'm interested to see how you do the XII (I kit-bashed a Sword Seafire XV and AZ IX, plus some bits from the spares box). Assume the process will be similar as I’m using an AZ ix and Sword XIV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gondor44 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 18 hours ago, phat trev said: Useful pile of Spitfire parts to start your project good luck with the conversions. There are a few Spitfire XIIs being built on here so it will be good to see them all. Not thought of doing a XII that way around Gondor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beard Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, PhantomBigStu said: Assume the process will be similar as I’m using an AZ ix and Sword XIV I haven't offered up the AZ IX wing to the Sword XIV fuselage so can't comment. Edited September 9, 2021 by Beard to correct grammar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 Made a start and mess as I didn’t realise where the 0.17mm should be cut @Giorgio N? Either end of the panel in front of the firewall or from the cowling? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Not sure I got your request right.. do you mean to shorten the cowling? I'll send you some measurements later today. In the meantime, do you have drawings? If not let me know and I'll send you something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Looks interesting, will watch along if I may. Good luck with your conversions. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 On 9/12/2021 at 8:46 AM, Giorgio N said: Not sure I got your request right.. do you mean to shorten the cowling? I'll send you some measurements later today. In the meantime, do you have drawings? If not let me know and I'll send you something Missed this post, I’m confused as to where to make the cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, PhantomBigStu said: Missed this post, I’m confused as to where to make the cut Now if I understand right you're cutting a Mk.XIV fuselage to shorten the cowling, am I correct ? My comments will be based on this approach, if I'm wrong let me know and I'll amend accordingly. The cowling must be removed at the firewall, and this seems to be what you've done. The firewall however is not straight but is stepped where the upper cowling panel meets the end of the cowling itself, with the lower part of the firewall line slightly ahed of the upper part.. or at least, this is what happens with the Mk.V, IX and XII (and other variants...) On the Mk,XIV, the panel line on a model is in the same position as in the other variants on the lower side, the upper side is angled forward. In doubt, cut straight following the lower firewall line. Then you can make the step by sanding the upper fuselage portion (use any Mk.IX or others to see what I mean). If you've not cut in the right place, no panic ! If you've cut ahead of the firewall, just remove some plastic until you reach the firewall. If you've cut behind the firewall, then add the missing length with plasticard sheets roughly cut to shape, glued in place as if were bulkheads and then sanded to the correct shape. According to Ventura's Seafire XV and XVII, that look accurate in this respect, the engine cowling should be 26.9 mm long, with the excess length removed from the side where you cut it from the rest of the fuselage. The XIV cowling is longer because of the presence of the second compressor stage and relative bits, that are all located behind the engine. The distance between spinner plate and exhausts stays the same so no need to touch the front of the cowling. If my explanation is not clear, I'll send some drawings and I cn post a picture using a Fujimi Spitfire XIV fuselage as basis, with a few lines on top courtesy of a marker Edited September 15, 2021 by Giorgio N 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Giorgio N said: Now if I understand right you're cutting a Mk.XIV fuselage to shorten the cowling, am I correct ? My comments will be based on this approach, if I'm wrong let me know and I'll amend accordingly. The cowling must removed at the firewall, and this seems to be what you've done. The firewall however is not straight but is stepped where the upper cowling panel meets the end of the cowling itself, with the lower part of the firewall line slightly ahed of the upper part.. or at least, this is what happens with the Mk.V, IX and XII (and other variants...) On the Mk,XIV, the panel line on a model is in the same position as in the other variants on the lower side, the upper side is angled forward. In doubt, cut straight following the lower firewall line. Then you can make the step by sanding the upper fuselage portion (use any Mk.IX or others to see what I mean). If you've not cut in the right place, no panic ! If you've cut ahead of the firewall, just remove some plastic until you reach the firewall. If you've cut behind the firewall, then add the missing length with plasticard sheets roughly cut to shape, glued in place as if were bulkheads and then sanded to the correct shape. According to Ventura's Seafire XV and XVII, that look accurate in this respect, the engine cowling should be 26.9 mm long, with the excess length removed from the side where you cut it from the rest of the fuselage. The XIV cowling is longer because of the presence of the second compressor stage and relative bits, that are all located behind the engine. The distance between spinner plate and exhausts stays the same so no need to touch the front of the cowling. If my explanation is not clear, I'll send some drawings and I cn post a picture using a Fujimi Spitfire XIV fuselage as basis, with a few lines on top courtesy of a marker I think that's clear 1. As I've done cut the firewall though lost the upper section so card and filler will sort that out. 2. Then shorten the cowling at the fuselage side, in the picture the right hand blue section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted November 5, 2021 Author Share Posted November 5, 2021 Finally did a little bit more to this morning shortening the nose, will fit the cowling once the wings are attached to the fuselage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted September 2, 2022 Author Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) Lost interest in this, maybe one day Ill come back to the XII, and the XI won't happen now as I've now don't have a D wing going spare. Thinking of doing a USAAF trio like the revell 8th air force legends set, of a p-47, p-51 and b-17 on one airfix multi stand.......got a p-51 in the stash and got myself a 47 today, which I will be doing first., always wanted the set and kicking myself I didn't buy the one in my local years ago as I was terriefied of the NMF b-17, one on ebay now but at 60 quid just too pricy as I would be getting aftermarket decals for the fortress, having done a canberra in nmf recently still terrified of doing such a large aircraft as such.....anyway high bidder on the regular revell b-17G boxing though if im outbid I'm not unhabby as actually leaning towards getting the F instead as I've done the airfix before which this will replace. Edited September 2, 2022 by PhantomBigStu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted September 3, 2022 Author Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) Didn’t get to start it today as I had to get some of my diecast boxes out to put some bits in various ones, which is not an easy task given the layout of our loft and it was really warm so in the end all I’ve done is part convert a couple of p-51s from fixed gear down to gear up config. And paint the white stripes that the maker missed on Detroit miss , also won that b-17 so it will be a revell G Edited September 3, 2022 by PhantomBigStu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted September 6, 2022 Author Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) Mustangs done, bit crude and one day Ill do them better and made a start on the P-47 and the b-17's on route. First p-47 I think I've got the right combo of interior and inner cowling colours, in this case Dark Dull Green and Aluminium, always done them both in either Interior Green or Zinc Chromate. Also lost a few hours as I could only find one of my spare nose checks for a couple of 363rd FG mustangs, went through my entrire decal options, had my desk and bed out (sometimes use it to go through decals) only to find after I'd given up the spare actually was in the orginal plile of mustang ones after alll...and I proably not gong to go with a 363rd one anyway *rolls eyes* Edited September 6, 2022 by PhantomBigStu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted September 7, 2022 Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 Cracked on with it, upper done today made a mess of the prop but had a spare from a previous build that just needed the red adding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 A gear door that didn’t play ball, a shopping trip that went wrong then the awful news breaking just after I got home limited progress, finally got the underside done, now just to touch up the top reattach the gun barrels that have escape and paint them all and it will be decal ready. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted September 11, 2022 Author Share Posted September 11, 2022 Decal ready, on the tristand and out some bazooka tubes from the academy kit, not done one with the tubes yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted September 16, 2022 Author Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) Picked this up today so it won’t be the airfix mustang in the stash I will build for this, though won’t be starting it soon as the silver I had hoped to use proved inadequate on another built so the adequate will have to wait till my next paint top up which could be a while as I’m well stocked. Decided on the scheme will be Petie 2nd. Also the b-17 arrived the on the sad day again will be a while before I start it , got a load of Gb entries to finish Edited September 16, 2022 by PhantomBigStu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 Finally got the decals on, the mustang also on the go but I’m still out of silver so it’s stalled. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) Slight delay as didn’t quite have the stripes positioned right so couldn’t use the bottom decals and had to manually paint them all, also realised once the matt varnish was on the olive drab was a better match for my b-17 repair so repainted and varnished that. Finally both are now done Edited October 21, 2022 by PhantomBigStu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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