Cheshiretaurus Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Thought I'd make a start on it. going to be a pure OOB build of ML963 of No. 571 Sqn from the kit. So a really quick post, I'll just get to the bones of it. Cockpit and bombay roof section complete, goes together really easy, MRP interior green airbrushed, then Humbrol 30 for the seats (kit suggests HU163 but I don't have that one) MRP 5 for the black bits. Tamiya tape harness. Fuel tanks are Humbrol 70 This pic from the Mosquito Wikipedia page show some labels too so have added them in Now all closed up and setting CT 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby No Mac Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 It'll be interesting to see how is goes together for you as I'm quite keen to have a go at this kit in the near future. So far so good! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(ex)Sgtrafman Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Hey CT Great start, I have to say this new Airfix mosquito does look very good 👍 Iain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2996 Victor Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Great start! I'll be following along, if I may? Cheers, Mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichG Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 23 hours ago, Cheshiretaurus said: Cockpit and bombay roof section complete, goes together really easy, MRP interior green airbrushed, Yeah, great start! I was contemplating a brand of RAF interior green for another project, the MRP looks great. The Colour Coats equivalent is out of stock at the moment so this might be the way to go. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-21 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) Great start, I was wondering how you will tackle the rear bomb bay fairing ? I am lucky in that I purchased one back in 2015, a Paragon bulged bomb bay. It is one piece . Having to shave off some of the front to marry up with the bomb bay lip Part No. C11. Otherwise the fit of the Paragon resin piece conforms well to the fuselage outline particularly the rear fairing. Part C2 is redundant unless making a TT.35 version. It's resin so be careful sanding and cutting due to inhaling dust. I also have two Aeroclub vac form bulged bomb-bay's 1/72 for the Mosquito,although yellowed and bit brittle but good standby's. Nos.105 and 109 Squadron were Oboe equipped aircraft ,the area to the right of the instrument panel and in the nose filled with Oboe equipment. To stop prying eyes on the ground ,both these squadron's had the nose's overpainted in what appears's to be a darker grey,almost black colour, than the camouflage. I would welcome any detail on this as finding out information is very hard ,the PRO Kew not being accessible for month's. At the rear of the bomb-bay where the camera port is ,Oboe Mossie's carried a stub aerial. 12 inche's wide by 18 inche's deep and 3 and half inche's thick. Silver finish but open to debate. Hannants are producing a decal sheet X72334 , I have e-mailed them re PF serial numbers. The Percival built aircraft had the fuselage and cowling camouflage sprayed much lower down the side's, this is not showing on their pre-production release. I can only assume that from late 1944 RAF Bomber Command were engaged on more daylight raids and it offered better protection from German fighters ? Edited August 27, 2021 by T-21 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 18 hours ago, 2996 Victor said: Great start! I'll be following along, if I may? Please take a seat, everyone is welcome to watch me f**K up I mean build this kit 16 hours ago, RichG said: I was contemplating a brand of RAF interior green for another project, the MRP looks great. I Started using MRP about 2 years ago, absolutely brilliant stuff! Really smooth, & easy to use. Still use Humbrol enamel & Xtracolor enamel too. 15 hours ago, T-21 said: I was wondering how you will tackle the rear bomb bay fairing ? Yes, now I look at that bit they did make a bit of a cock up there didn't they. I was going to do this OOB but I now cant ignore this elephant in the room now I know about it. The doors and fairing are just dry fitted in this pic. I'm going to do mine doors open though. A couple of questions as I have no drawings of a B.XVI Does the correct fairing extent rearwards to the same distance of the one in the kit? Would I be correct in saying it is just a case of filling in and smoothing the cut outs on the sides to the line I've drawn in? Also on the doors, Is it just a case of removing the detail on that rear third? Does anyone have some good drawing of a B.XVI they would like to share? Thoughts that spring to mind are either good old 20th century Milliput or try and expand my very limited skills in Fusion 360 and make a 21st century solution of a new part on the Elegoo Mars? CT is now in pondering mode. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 EDIT Ignore this bottle of wine induced duplicate post EDIT 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 9 hours ago, Cheshiretaurus said: Does the correct fairing extent rearwards to the same distance of the one in the kit? Would I be correct in saying it is just a case of filling in and smoothing the cut outs on the sides to the line I've drawn in? Also on the doors, Is it just a case of removing the detail on that rear third? Yes, Yes Sort of. The bomb doors were pretty plain on the bombers The detail on the rear third is doors and fairings for target sleeves, the corresponding detail on the inside needs removing as well and omit parts 3 & 4. The details down the centreline are latches IIRC, the TT doors were latched shut and didn't open in flight, these should be removed as well. The external detail over the fwd and aft door actuator mounting points is overscale imho, I'd be tempted to lightly scribe round these protrusions and sand off all the external raised detail on the doors. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 A little time work, A little time eating, A little time sleeping, Even less time modelling.......So short post then! Anyway quick update after a wait for some Flory sanding sticks that I had run out of, They arrived yesterday so I opened the draw to put them away only to find 2 packets I already had.......duh! So my slow progress brings me here. Wings have gone together really well. trailing edges could do with being a bit thinner though if you are listening AIRFIX. tail went on next followed by the engine nacelles. all generally a good fit but one or two unexpected gaps are present that I will need to sort out soon. So far things look like this:- I'm going enjoy a beer or three this evening in the 27°C while the Tamiya Extra thin sets. As far as the rear bomb bay fairing is concerned Ive been trying my hand at 3D printing one but without much success, I can loft a fairing in fusion 360 easily now, I can 3D print it easily. can I get it to fit? no chance! eventually I think I resort to the milliput option like others have done so. So not that much to report in this post Thanks for looking, Beer time CT 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 On 8/26/2021 at 1:26 PM, Cheshiretaurus said: going to be a pure OOB build No working nav lights in this one then CT? On 8/27/2021 at 11:16 PM, Cheshiretaurus said: I was going to do this OOB but I now cant ignore this elephant in the room now Well that resolution lasted a long time 10 minutes ago, Cheshiretaurus said: Beer time 🍻 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 31 minutes ago, Fritag said: No working nav lights in this one then CT? Funny you should say that, I have been playing with a microcontroller and LEDs a few months back and had some strobes and beacon running on a test circuit. But i think that will go in another build sometime. https://www.amazon.co.uk/TOOGOO-Attiny85-development-Arduino-Digispark-black/dp/B075XDVMJV 35 minutes ago, Fritag said: Well that resolution lasted a long time Try as I might I dont think Im capable of an OOB I have to fiddle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturmovik Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Is the line on the right fuselage side a reinforcing strip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever219 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 43 minutes ago, Sturmovik said: Is the line on the right fuselage side a reinforcing strip? Yes, it was introduced on all Mosquitos after W4050’s back was broken when the tail wheel became stuck in a rut whilst taxing at A&AEE. The fuselage was swapped with that of W4051 whilst repairs that are still visible today were carried out. The hatch below the strip gives access to air and oxygen bottles and to some items of electrical and radio/navigation equipment. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share Posted September 9, 2021 Quick question regarding the wing leading edge light. Airfix have provided a blank part on aircraft that didn't have the light, but did those aircraft have any trace of of this panel? or was it just non existent and pure wood all the way along to the wingtip? In other words should I just just blend this completely in? CT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 21 minutes ago, Cheshiretaurus said: Quick question regarding the wing leading edge light. Airfix have provided a blank part on aircraft that didn't have the light, but did those aircraft have any trace of of this panel? or was it just non existent and pure wood all the way along to the wingtip? In other words should I just just blend this completely in? CT Blend it in completely, the landing lights in this positon was a late war mod, prior to this it was a plain leading edge as per the port side. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share Posted September 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, Dave Swindell said: Blend it in completely, the landing lights in this positon was a late war mod, prior to this it was a plain leading edge as per the port side. Thanks that's what I was thinking, Blender mode - On 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, stever219 said: Yes, it was introduced on all Mosquitos after W4050’s back was broken when the tail wheel became stuck in a rut whilst taxing at A&AEE. The fuselage was swapped with that of W4051 whilst repairs that are still visible today were carried out. The hatch below the strip gives access to air and oxygen bottles and to some items of electrical and radio/navigation equipment. Almost correct, but the above implies it was fitted to all Mosquitos except W4050 in it's original form, which is not the case. It was introduced after the above event (24th Feb 1941), but it was quite a while after the event and only applied to new build Mosquitos or conversions, few if any of those built without it were retrofitted with the reinforcing strip in service as far as I can determine. If you look closely, there's photographic evidence of quite a few B.IV series II airframes in service without the reinforcing strip, and all series I Mosquitos with short chord nacelles were built without the reinforcing strip. Early T.III, F.II, NF.II PR.II and PR.IV were all completed wihout the strip ie all W serials, DD serials, DK serials and some DZ serials. It appears to have been introduced in late November / early December 1942 after B.IV DZ379, but before DZ411. The prototype PRVIII and NFXV both fall in this range, but were conversions of the B.IV airframes, whether they had the strip when built is unknown, but the conversions were completed with it. Basically, if you're modelling a Mosquito in service prior to 1943 and you don't have evidence to the contrary, it shouldn't have the reinforcing strip. Edit:- @Cheshiretaurus - above not applicable to the new Airfix kit, all these would have been built with the strip. Does apply to some of the schemes in the Tamiya kits though, both the B.IV's, the NF.II and possibly the PR.IV would have been built without the strip. Edited September 9, 2021 by Dave Swindell 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 Bit more of an update, I've blended in that leading edge landing light blank, blended in as many seam lies as I can. Ive also decided my fusion 360 skills are not yet up to the job of making a fairing, at least one that fits so settled for old school Milliput and to keep practicing on the CAD. Bit of black primer over it to see how it looks, (might need a little more work there) Canopy and nose glazing fitted with UV glue and here is the latest state of play. Canopy masking next CT 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 Little more progress in the paint preparation today, got as far as the primer With the masking complete I went over the frames with MRP Interior green. Then MrSurfacer 1500 from the rattler Theres a few bit I need to work on, Ive lost part of the rear fuselage access door detail, so need to rescribe that also the join between the rear fairing and the main fuselage is a bit soft so might dare to put a scribe line around that to sharpen the area up. I'll let the Primer dry for a couple of hours before doing much more. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck1945 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Nice, I see you used pre-cut masks. I’ve been checking Hannants almost daily to see if Eduard masks are available for the kit. What ones have you used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, Chuck1945 said: Nice, I see you used pre-cut masks. I’ve been checking Hannants almost daily to see if Eduard masks are available for the kit. What ones have you used? Ive used some that are available on ebay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck1945 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Thanks, I have the Eduard sets for the Tamiya kits but not sure how well they would fit the Airfix kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted September 18, 2021 Author Share Posted September 18, 2021 Bit of an hour or so this morning black basing with MRP white then the undersides with MRP112 Medium sea gray. A few touch ups here and there to do before masking the underside but for now its lunch time 😀 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 I've forgotten how long masking takes Couple of hours work and we are ready for MRP115 Ocean Gray Lunch time yet again then I might break out the masking putty in preparation for the green. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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