Hardtarget Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) I can also confirm that the NEWS section is June 21 so very old news. We didnt get these issues in hard format so if they are a re-hash thats a bit naughty. There was a forward from Mark finally apologising for the lack of updates and communication but all will be rosy again, cough cough, bull pucky. There is also no back cover to suggest next months incarnation or general legal bits and pieces. Certainly it does not contain the 'reviews and builds' as advertised in the Oct/Nov issue. Hope that helps. Stu Edited December 7, 2021 by Mike Removing obfuscated bad language 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutleyp Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Wow! I guess a Leopard doesn’t change its spots then? sad really these were a great trio of magazines! Won’t be getting another penny of my money! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLN Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 6 hours ago, Hardtarget said: I can also confirm that the NEWS section is June 21 so very old news. We didnt get these issues in hard format so if they are a re-hash thats a bit naughty. There was a forward from Mark finally apologising for the lack of updates and communication but all will be rosy again, cough cough, bull sh*t. There is also no back cover to suggest next months incarnation or general legal bits and pieces. Certainly it does not contain the 'reviews and builds' as advertised in the Oct/Nov issue. Hope that helps. Stu Bit late to apologise for lack of updates and communication. They've lost me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXANTOMCAT Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 me too! TT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whofan Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) I just picked these up in our local W H Smith. For all the issues referred to above, most of which are the publishers fault, I still appreciate the builds in the magazines and I hope those contributors who should be paid do get paid. I’ll be reading them over the rest of the week. Edited December 7, 2021 by Whofan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I've just had to remove some swearing from two posts. Normally that would get you a 31 day suspension seeing as you're both old enough to know better, but I'm going to cut you some slack this time as long as it is NOT repeated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HartDeco Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, Whofan said: I just picked these up in our local W H Smith. For all the issues referred to above, most of which are mostly the publishers fault, I still appreciate the builds in the magazines and I hope those contributors who should be paid do get paid. I’ll be reading them over the rest of the week. As far as l can tell, almost none of us got paid this year. From what l've seen, several articles from the June issue have been reused in the latest SAMI. I wouldn't be surprised if the same happnens with MAM. René 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bradley Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Then the contributors ought to invoice them twice - it would be interesting to see what they say. This whole saga really is a damning indictment of their values and business acumen, isn't it? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 So is this issue Dec/Jun the one that could only be ordered on their web site, for which money got taken from the person who ordered it, but they never received the magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whofan Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, HartDeco said: As far as l can tell, almost none of us got paid this year. From what l've seen, several articles from the June issue have been reused in the latest SAMI. I wouldn't be surprised if the same happens with MAM. René Well that's a damn shame. I hope you can get your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Paul Bradley said: Then the contributors ought to invoice them twice - it would be interesting to see what they say. This whole saga really is a damning indictment of their values and business acumen, isn't it? From my own experience with them back when they were SAM Publications it didn't matter how often one invoiced , emailed , telephoned there was always some seemingly plausible excuse - will be in the post today / tomorrow / next week / whenever so-and-so is back from holiday or could you take half this month and half next and it will be in the post etc. etc. No idea what their system is now but back then payment was due was three months after publication so that could also become a source of confusion as payments when they did arrive gave no indication of which article they were for. When I eventually pulled the plug I was owed payments going back over a year so in that sense their business model was in fact quite successful. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bradley Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Yes, I experienced the same - having to badger them constantly regarding payment was tiresome. I was lucky - I got out being owed for only one article. It simply wasn't worth pursuing any more - and I guess that's worth it to them. Never mind burning bridges, always some new suckers to fill the gap... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Mc Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 What a tale of woe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Lambess Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Well at least it looks like the June and July issues were Internet only and never printed ..which means I'm not technically missing those issues ...I'm still missing June 2020 (last year) and offering 20 gbp plus postage to anyone who can spare it to complete my set . There is a post it the wanted section as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulH Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 I just got a notification from pocketmags of 2 new issues Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulH Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, PaulH said: I just got a notification from pocketmags of (3) new issues Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutleyp Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 These are exact duplicates of the June issues, what a joke if anyone is subscribing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulH Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 good point I missed that ! they have changed the page 3 foreword mind you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutleyp Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 43 minutes ago, PaulH said: good point I missed that ! they have changed the page 3 foreword mind you 🤭😂👍 good point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 3 hours ago, mutleyp said: These are exact duplicates of the June issues, what a joke if anyone is subscribing! Yes I have seen from a few sources that the Dec issue in PDF is just the June issue, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Does that smack of fraud to anyone else? That seems deliberate and considered to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HartDeco Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 4 hours ago, mutleyp said: These are exact duplicates of the June issues, what a joke if anyone is subscribing! And what a joke for the contributors too. They got screwed over twice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutleyp Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 27 minutes ago, Mike said: Does that smack of fraud to anyone else? That seems deliberate and considered to me It does seem that way doesn’t it? What a way to run a company! 😮😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Beastie Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 There will be out of date product news, which will look bad, plus what about publicity for shows, which obviously dates the magazine? It’ll make them look even worse. My money is on January 2022’s issue being a reprint of July 2021’s. . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B (Sc) Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 15 hours ago, Mike said: Does that smack of fraud to anyone else? That seems deliberate and considered to me If it is not it must be very close to it ! Very dubious behaviour and likely to rebound on them. A great shame, because that was once a good, worthwhile magazine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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