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Well okay. The boring bit about myself.

 

I've been building 1/35 armour on and off for years, but this time around the block I thought I'd really try and challenge myself. And so a foray into ships! I've got to say I'm excited - I've always loved the idea of building miniatures of these huge chunks of steel and although I've owned ship kits for years, I've only once or twice managed to finish one. 

 

The kit I've chosen to learn on is the Revell rendition of HMS Manchester, put out in 1998 and supposedly a repop of a Dragon kit. 

 

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There are spaces in the sprues because the build has been going on for the last month or so. There are 3 sprues altogether, but one of them is taken up by the stand and name plate and propeller shafts ect. So in reality really only 2 sprues. 

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Part of sprue B, which in the main is weapons, more than half of which won't be used.  I only have armour kits to measure sharpness against these sprues; but I seem to remember Dragon being very crisp. These seem alittle hazy/chunky in detail. Any opinions?

 

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I used to love scratching pieces for my armour kits out of different materials; copper/tin foil, but mostly sheet styrene. But 1/700 means much less scope for that. Only one sheet, but having never built a ship using etch this will be a big learning experience. 

 

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The build so far - major structures blu-tacked together. I've gone to the point where I need to get with the etch and start sticking it on. Or, I could procrastinate and paint the hull....

 

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CONS so far.

I am abit disappointed with the kit. There were some pretty huge sink marks in the upper hull, especially near the bow. The funnel, and a box just after the main radar post had minor, but annoying sink marks as well. I'm not sure as to the initial fitting out of the Manchester, but going by the pics I have (these are admittedly late in her career I think), there seemed a need to change the upper deck walkways (excuse the non sailor lingo); movement of the inflatable boats and their cranes to the correct position, deleting and adding different weapons. All this has also resulted in a fair amount of time on the sanding block, AND cutting sheet styrene in an effort to compensate. 

 

PROS so far

I'm enjoying the build. The stretch 42's just has to be one of the most eye catching of warship designs. It's a beauty, and it's slowly coming together. AND I'm cutting styrene again! Who'd a thought!

 

Gaz

 

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Well done! This particular ship is a bit too modern for my taste (I prefer WWII and earlier) but looks very cool!

I especially admire the scratchbuilt pieces.

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Gidday Gaz, like GrzeM above I'm more into WW2 era ships but I agree with you in that she is an eye catching vessel. Plus I enjoy seeing (and doing) modifications to model ships, either for more accuracy or for conversions. PE however, is beyond me. Keep up the good work. Regards, Jeff.

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5 hours ago, agyoung33 said:

The stretch 42's just has to be one of the most eye catching of warship designs

Seconded (or thirded/fourthed), esp when compared against some other designs of this period (esp the 45s after...), but I think the Kirov beats it in sheer beauty. Tunin' in, and good job on the upper deck walkways.

 

David

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20 hours ago, GrzeM said:

Well done! This particular ship is a bit too modern for my taste (I prefer WWII and earlier) but looks very cool!

I especially admire the scratchbuilt pieces.

 

20 hours ago, ArnoldAmbrose said:

Gidday Gaz, like GrzeM above I'm more into WW2 era ships but I agree with you in that she is an eye catching vessel. Plus I enjoy seeing (and doing) modifications to model ships, either for more accuracy or for conversions. PE however, is beyond me. Keep up the good work. Regards, Jeff.

Thanks guys! I'll hopefully be moving on to some of the other closet cloggers in due course ~ there's afew Ww2 battleships waiting their turn! In the meantime it's back to the "answer"! 

 

I'll have to take a gander at some of your builds Jeff for ship wrangling tips! 

 

Chees

Gaz

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15 hours ago, Adm Lord De Univers said:

Seconded (or thirded/fourthed), esp when compared against some other designs of this period (esp the 45s after...), but I think the Kirov beats it in sheer beauty. Tunin' in, and good job on the upper deck walkways.

 

David

Thanks David! Yeah, those bloody walkways... I've already broken them afew times now! 🙄😅

 

Kirov's? Absolute stunner of a design. There's one in the closet too.... 

 

Cheers 

Gaz

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Gidday Gaz, thanks for the vote of confidence but don't hope for too much. Most of my models are Airfix 1/600 scale, which are not overly detailed. They are (or were) relatively cheap when I used to be able to get them so I guess you get what you pay for, but I like them because they suit my very average level of skill and my modest bank balance. I don't buy aftermarket stuff so my scratchbuilt parts are sometimes somewhat crude but I enjoy making them.

     I'm looking forward to seeing more progress with your HMS Manchester, plus wondering what WW2 battlewagons you have waiting in the wings (or should I say, the shipyard). Regards, Jeff.

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On 27/07/2021 at 00:15, ArnoldAmbrose said:

Gidday Gaz, thanks for the vote of confidence but don't hope for too much. Most of my models are Airfix 1/600 scale, which are not overly detailed. They are (or were) relatively cheap when I used to be able to get them so I guess you get what you pay for, but I like them because they suit my very average level of skill and my modest bank balance. I don't buy aftermarket stuff so my scratchbuilt parts are sometimes somewhat crude but I enjoy making them.

     I'm looking forward to seeing more progress with your HMS Manchester, plus wondering what WW2 battlewagons you have waiting in the wings (or should I say, the shipyard). Regards, Jeff.

 

Hiya Jeff - it's all tools in the "tool bag" - something will pop up and if the tool is there - sweet - so don't sweat it mate! I've always felt scratch was the imprint of yourself into a project; it makes it unique so that's always cool! Each to their own! 

 

I was around Perth for a few days about 2yrs ago - had a job up in Kalbarri for afew months. Beautiful countryside but hotter than sin! Perth is a beautiful city too - its got a vibe different to the eastern seaboard.

 

Cheers

Gary

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Looking good so far Gaz, nice work with the additions. 

 

The Revell and the Skywave/Pit Road boxing of the streched 42's (and the batch 1) just don't seem as crisp or as fine as the Dragon ones, it's like they've been on a diet of takeaways for 18 months in comparison (I know the feeling).

 

I made Exeter a couple of years ago from the Shywave kit, then got the Dragon kit and it's like chalk and cheese. The PE makes a huge difference to the kit tho, great fun as well!

 

Best o luck with the rest of the build!

 

Geoff

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On 01/08/2021 at 10:18, Bugle07 said:

Looking good so far Gaz, nice work with the additions. 

 

The Revell and the Skywave/Pit Road boxing of the streched 42's (and the batch 1) just don't seem as crisp or as fine as the Dragon ones, it's like they've been on a diet of takeaways for 18 months in comparison (I know the feeling).

 

I made Exeter a couple of years ago from the Shywave kit, then got the Dragon kit and it's like chalk and cheese. The PE makes a huge difference to the kit tho, great fun as well!

 

Best o luck with the rest of the build!

 

Geoff

 

Thanks Geoff!

 

Yeah I had a decent look online at the sprues, and sure enough - it wasn't just my deteriorating eyesight. In other news, I note, with a shake of the head, that Cyberhobby are putting out a 3 in 1 box of Sheffield class destroyers. Build any ship from all 3 batches.....

 

Anyway, we'll keep on with this since I've started! 

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Been a long week of work, which has dragged on into the evenings in most cases. However, I did manage to do some research, and found a rather decent pic and article on the transom flap that the Manchester was fitted with, circa 2007. 

 

Here's the link for interested parties.

 

https://autodocbox.com/Diesel/66084315-Retrofit-of-transom-flaps-to-rn-warships.html

 

It's about halfway through the article, which starts with similar work done to a Type 21 (I think?)

 

Please excuse the sometimes substandard photography. I used to have a camera I could focus manually which was fantastic for getting into the nooks and crannies. The pics that follow are me experimenting with a "zoom focus" app on my phone. So far, its crashed after each pic....

 

Anyway here is my "rendition" of the transom flap in plastic.

 

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I found that the transom wasn't "flat" on the model, and had to build it up alittle for my plastic bits to fit properly. 

 

Another round of plastic cutting occurred when I thought it would be a good idea to have the helo hanger open. A chance to put some innards in.

 

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As you can see from the last pic, I've started on the etch. Just doors and ladders mind you. Still feeling my way about. 

 

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I've more or less glued all the PE doors and ladders, from the hanger to the bridge. However, there are a pair of doors that I still need to add. These are located on the sides of the bridge, so I've blanked one of the windows where appropriate with white plastic - you can see the starboard one in the above pic.

 

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The etch has gone better than expected. I went out and got a decent pair of tweezers, rather than stick with the clapped out ones I have. And using a tooth pick end after dabbing it into a ball of blu-tac seems to be the way to pick up small bits of brass hassle free. 

 

My present thinking in terms of build order would be - build the etch yard arms and set them aside. Tape the hull up and spray primer to simulate hull plating and then continue applying the deck colour. Mask and apply light grey to the sides etc.  Glue the railings and etch radar - I can't see myself not knocking off railings etc, if I was to build them at this point.  What do you think?

 

Gaz

 

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