magman2 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 The Russian curiosity l believe this project, is to be financed with Foreign money and is aimed at countries that can’t purchase the F-35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomthounaojam Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, tomthounaojam said: Especially the 747 is hilarious Apart From that, do I see right with the elevators facing towards the engine/ are located inwards of the vertical stabs? That is rather new ! At least to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 19 hours ago, magman2 said: Russian Curiosity Net Photo That camouflage makes it look a bit like the Hasegawa iDOLM@STER range. I wonder if they will be the first to produce a kit of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abandoned Project Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 On 16/07/2021 at 13:46, Mike said: Air combat is going to be very tricky with all the combatants looking the same these days. That could be an F-35 under that tarp It will no doubt be called the F-35ski by someone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abandoned Project Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 I was reminded of this little beauty in the What-if section It too has a lack of wing type things but looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairystick Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 14 hours ago, Abandoned Project said: It will no doubt be called the F-35ski by someone. Perhaps myself, on the previous page... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman2 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 The Russian curiosity Checkmate is a Real Prototype not A model Net Photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, magman2 said: The Russian curiosity Checkmate is a Real Prototype not A model Any pics of it actually flying then? Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dov Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 To resume the information: Delta wing with thrust control system. Thrust control system with suport of control surfaces next to the nozzle. Delta wing reduces cross section! Good combination by idea. Maybe it works out! Happy modelling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman2 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, Hook said: Any pics of it actually flying then? Cheers, Andre If photos exist of it flying, I’m Sure You will be the First to post them here ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abandoned Project Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 hours ago, hairystick said: Perhaps myself, on the previous page... Indeed you did. That will teach me to read the whole thread before I post a reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abandoned Project Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 hours ago, magman2 said: not A model I'm hoping Zvezda for the kit, most likely in 1/72 scale. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 hours ago, dov said: To resume the information: Delta wing with thrust control system. Thrust control system with support of control surfaces next to the nozzle. Delta wing reduces cross section! Good combination by idea. Maybe it works out! Happy modelling kind of innovative, no? and saw tooth nozzle as well.... all there what you need! on a lighter note, the cockpit also has the big screen... so must be at least equal to the F-35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman2 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Abandoned Project said: I'm hoping Zvezda for the kit, most likely in 1/72 scale. Zvezda would make a good job of producing a kit of the Checkmate, but it will change before it finally enters Service with any Air Force. The Checkmate will not receive SU-?designation until it enters Russian service. NATO might designate it Fantasia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 hour ago, magman2 said: The Checkmate will not receive SU-?designation until it enters Russian service. Not necessarily . there are quite a few instances of Russian aircraft receiving AF designations that never enter service - (and some also received NATO/ASCC names) From the top of my head (a barren place these days).... Tu-98 Backfin. Beriev A-40/Be-42 Mermaid Tu-91 Boot, Su-47 Firkin etc etc. NATO might designate it Fantasia. That doesn't comply with the NATO/ASCC/ASIG rule of two syllables for jet-powered aircraft..... Nitpick mode off..... Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman2 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Russian curiosity Checkmate Net Photos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman2 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Russian curiosity Checkmate Intake Net Photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 not really convinced... the relatively narrow top part of the air intake should give much resistance to the airflow (bundary layer). But we'll see... Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abandoned Project Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 hours ago, magman2 said: NATO might designate it Fantasia 3 hours ago, Flankerman said: That doesn't comply with the NATO/ASCC/ASIG rule of two syllables for jet-powered aircraft..... Would 'Fiction' work? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazontipede Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 16 hours ago, magman2 said: Russian curiosity Checkmate Intake Net Photo Angel Interceptor confirmed! Does this mean the VVS (or whatever they call themselves nowadays) will be bringing back female pilots?? Interestingly enough, the majority of the stealth shaping appears to be on the lower and frontal aspects, combined with that fairly sizeable wing I wonder if it is intended to operate at very high altitudes? A bit like the F-22 does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 9:52 AM, magman2 said: If photos exist of it flying, I’m Sure You will be the First to post them here ?? Well, I am not the one claiming it isn't just a mockup but a functional prototype. 😎 Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) Listened to an interview yesterday re the state of the russian air force and that the Su-57 fixes the weakness of the flanker in comparison with Western 4.5 gen aircraft. I assume this is doing the same for the mig-29 as stop gaps whilst they try and get a 6th gen fighter before the US like we are doing with the Tempest II Edited July 23, 2021 by PhantomBigStu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiampieroSilvestri Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Weakness of the Sukhoi Su-27 against western aircraft?It is very interesting to observe how western "experts" are trying to talk bad Russian aircraft.And people say that the cold war is over.The Russian aircraft industry has nothing to envy to the west.Reading interviews it is more the other way round. Saluti Giampiero+Christian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 6 hours ago, GiampieroSilvestri said: It is very interesting to observe how western "experts" are trying to talk bad Russian aircraft. And people say that the cold war is over. The Russian aircraft industry has nothing to envy to the west. Reading interviews it is more the other way round. Excuse me, but Russian sources have been the driving force behind most of the negative publicity on the F-35 since 2008. It was a serious, if desperate, attempt to delay or preferably, cancel or limit the program until they were in any kind of position to close the gap. Now they are somewhat in the ballpark for producing a genuine 5th gen fighter, we can be thankful that the development of the F-35 continued, particularly through the very difficult period of sustained negative propaganda from 2014-2020. Nobody sensible ever said the cold war was over. Only one side wanted to believe that, and the fact so much damage has been done politically and economically thanks to the very one-sided hybrid war waged on the West through sophisticated disinformation strategy, we're lucky that some of the targeted critical defence programs and new technologies did not fall victim to it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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