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New Sukhoi fighter aircraft to be revealed at MAKS 2021


Robert

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A new aircraft from Sukhoi will be revealed at MAKS 2021. There are pictures showing a single engine twin tailed aircraft covered with a tarp being wheeled around 

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/uac-checkmate.37538/page-3

 

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Air combat is going to be very tricky with all the combatants looking the same these days.  That could be an F-35 under that tarp :hmmm:

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13 minutes ago, GiampieroSilvestri said:

Could that be the south korean KAI KF-21?

 

Saluti

 

Giampiero

 

 

The KAI KF-21 is twin-engined. Russian Tarpaulin-Jet is single-engined.

 

Dave

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29 minutes ago, alex said:

looks a lot like a F-35-"inspired" aircraft...

That's the thing.  Optimum radar-reduction is the same no matter what computer or design bureau it runs at.  It's the same reason all modern cars look a bit alike.  Aerodynamics :shrug: I suppose it's really just a choice of engines, crew number and whether you want low-observable from all angles like the F-35, or just while you're flying into the attack like the Su-57 Felon.

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Rather interesting times! If everybody flies stealth jets... Will it be down to dogfights again? ;)

 

 

The Chinese J-31 also looks the same, but twin engined. It is even the same black as this cover :D

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38 minutes ago, Max Headroom said:

You punch the same parameters into a computer and you get the same result....

So you mean computers are right?

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Or you mean that those ARE the same calculations?

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24 minutes ago, exdraken said:

o you mean computers are right?

 :devil:

Or you mean that those ARE the same calculations?

 

I think the snag is that if you make similar compromise assumptions, the most believable or acceptable answers will look similar , at least to anyone who is part of a committee. Old style designers were more apt to go with their gut feel or their personal idiosyncratic engineering preferences.  

 

There used to be a saying about IT kit - " no-one got fired for buying IBM".  In this case, if everyone else is producing shapes like this, that reassures the doubters.  A radical departure may be seen as more risky.

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And I thought BVR tactics were down to advanced radar, missiles and systems.Now I realise that the major possible combatants have a protocol that as their aircraft are so ugly they will engage out of sight of the other 

 

More seriously I reckon the guys are right in that when you design for the same problem you get the same shapes/ solutions. Of course a highly active government agency specialising in industrial espionage helps 

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Not one that you do a collection of models of because of the markings.

 

Teleport me back to the sixties and seventies please it was colourful then.  :whistle:

 

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20 hours ago, Mike said:

That's the thing.  Optimum radar-reduction is the same no matter what computer or design bureau it runs at.  It's the same reason all modern cars look a bit alike.  Aerodynamics :shrug: I suppose it's really just a choice of engines, crew number and whether you want low-observable from all angles like the F-35, or just while you're flying into the attack like the Su-57 Felon.

That and safety (both passenger and pedestrian) regulations don’t leave much wiggle room for the designer 

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2 hours ago, Whitewolf said:

A Russian near copy built using data stolen from Lockheed Martin perhaps?

Well if one discounts the lack of horizontal stabilisers, the sharply canted vertical stabs and the rather unusual Angel-Interceptor wrap around intake plus various sundry other details... I'm afraid I'm not seeing, just like an F-35.  :whistle:

To me it looks more like they've been having a peek at some of Gerry Anderson's designs and adapting them for stealth... :D

 

I admit I'm not convinced by a couple of details of the otherwise interesting drawings. I can see no evidence for the intakes at the roots of the taileron/stabilator or whatever you want to call those tail fins under the tarps. The main wrap around intake is also perhaps a bit speculative. It'll certainly be an interesting reveal!

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Looks a bit like a cross between the F35 and the YF32. I wonder if they are looking for something a bit cheaper than the Su57

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