smyfe Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Hi, starting a new ship, Trying to make HMS Kimberley from Flyhawks HMS Jupiter. The most significant difference that I can see is Kimberley retained both stes of torpedo tubes. I have filled the square opening for the 4" AA gun and have made a start with the amazing Sovereign hobbies Colourcoats Narn 23 dark deck grey and masked up ready for the 507c. I will be using the illustration from "The Kelly's" book by Christopher Langtree. I intend to try to make this one my best effort yet, time will tell. More to come Mick 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisbod Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Always love a FlyHawk model! Good start Mick. Guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smyfe Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 Hi, I have been spraying the 507c and the black boot stripe and the anti fouling red, then I started to look at the deck. Could anyone help as the only reference I have found to the deck colours are from Shar2's build of Kimberley in 1940 colours, which shows a good portion of the deck is covered on corticene, am I right in assuming this would still be down in May 1941, any advice or help would be very gratefully received. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 CAFO200 dated February 1940 ordered that as J & K class destroyers came in that their existing Corticene and rubber matting be replaced by Semtex SX135, and that 4.7" gun platforms of J & K class destroyers were to be laid with a product called Wondegrip over an underlay. It also specified that walkways over machinery spaces be widened to 3' 6" if interested. Semtex SX135 was "Admiralty Grey" as of 9th August 1940 at least. There were equivalent products from Aranbee and Supertex which may have been brown or either blue or green (I forget which) and I don't know which was which colour. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrzeM Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) Great work! I've just ordered Flyhawk Kelly, still waiting for it to come. Speaking about the corticene, robgizlu made decks of his 1940 HMS Griffin in semtex (grey) and maingun platforms in corticene (brickred). Seems that in 1940 corticene was replaced with semtex and other materials. Edited July 13, 2021 by GrzeM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrzeM Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said: CAFO200 dated February 1940 ordered that as J & K class destroyers came in that their existing Corticene and rubber matting be replaced by Semtex SX135, and that 4.7" gun platforms of J & K class destroyers were to be laid with a product called Wondegrip over an underlay. It also specified that walkways over machinery spaces be widened to 3' 6" if interested. Semtex SX135 was "Admiralty Grey" as of 9th August 1940 at least. There were equivalent products from Aranbee and Supertex which may have been brown or either blue or green (I forget which) and I don't know which was which colour. Great news! Were similar orders for G and H flotillas issued? I'm building the Glowworm in her April 1940 outfit. I know robgizlu HMS Griffin build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, GrzeM said: Great news! Were similar orders for G and H flotillas issued? I'm building the Glowworm in her April 1940 outfit. I know robgizlu HMS Griffin build. I don't believe such an order was issued for G and H flotillas but I would think a similar practise was put into effect by some other correspondence within a close timeframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrzeM Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said: I don't believe such an order was issued for G and H flotillas but I would think a similar practise was put into effect by some other correspondence within a close timeframe. Thanks. Speaking about the RN reality - would such order/correspondence have visible effect on the ship in early days of April 1940, before Glowworm was sunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smyfe Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 33 minutes ago, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said: CAFO200 dated February 1940 ordered that as J & K class destroyers came in that their existing Corticene and rubber matting be replaced by Semtex SX135, and that 4.7" gun platforms of J & K class destroyers were to be laid with a product called Wondegrip over an underlay. It also specified that walkways over machinery spaces be widened to 3' 6" if interested. Semtex SX135 was "Admiralty Grey" as of 9th August 1940 at least. There were equivalent products from Aranbee and Supertex which may have been brown or either blue or green (I forget which) and I don't know which was which colour. Thanks Jamie, to the rescue again. I think i will go with the grey colour. Glad you piped up while I was cooking a BBQ as I was going to do the corticene when I came back. Thanks Mick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, GrzeM said: Thanks. Speaking about the RN reality - would such order/correspondence have visible effect on the ship in early days of April 1940, before Glowworm was sunk? There are probably two answers; generally it could take many months to work through all the ships. Specifically though, if you Google the movements for HMS Glowworm you'll find she had a collision in February 1940 and went to a shipyard for repair. It's quite likely the Corticene was stripped out during that month in a dockyard. https://www.naval-history.net/xGM-Chrono-10DD-25G-HMS_Glowworm.htm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrzeM Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Thanks! That makes sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smyfe Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 Hi, work is getting in the way of model time. Thanks to Colourcoats drying so quick, with no fear of lifting, I unmasked the deck and re masked for the Semtex, which I sprayed with a slightly darkened emergency grey. In my haste I forgot to mask the 507c, so had to re mask for that and then re sprayed it. Masking now removed, a few small touch ups will be needed. Next I will start masking the hull for the 507c, Home Fleet Grey and black camo. Mick 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adm Lord De Univers Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 You could set your watch to that paint job! I can pick out details, even with me dodgy eyes, without zooming in. David 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/15/2021 at 4:34 AM, smyfe said: Hi, work is getting in the way of model time. Gidday Mick, You too? As Ned Kelly used to say, "Such is life!" And like David above, I think that paint job looks very good. Regards, Jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrzeM Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Very well, precisely done! Impressive! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smyfe Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share Posted July 17, 2021 Hi, camo on, so glad the upper works are plain 507c 🤪. Hopefully going to start some building now, first time using lower hull as I intend to embed this one in a foam sea base. The error on the lower part of the boot strip will disappear in the sea. I have been furloughed for a couple of days next week, so hopefully we will see some progress. Hope you all have a good weekend and don't get burnt, forecast 28 degrees here. Mick 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Lovely job on that Camo Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Gidday Mick, that's a rather striking camo scheme. And 28 degrees is considered quite pleasant in this part of the world. 🙂 Regards, Jeff. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adm Lord De Univers Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 3 hours ago, ArnoldAmbrose said: And 28 degrees is considered quite pleasant. Bah! My face, phone and dignity are all melting away. Need somewhere colder to live, or at least regular icecream vans. Camo is stunning btw. David 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnoldAmbrose Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Gidday, at the risk of going off topic, I don't like cold weather, but icecream is a vice/addiction I quite enjoy. 😛 Regards, Jeff. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Very nice paint job. 👍 Stay Safe beefy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 On 14/07/2021 at 21:34, smyfe said: Mick That is super-impressive masking. I take my hat off to you sir. Only wish I could get masking to work like that - I end up with bleed through no matter how I do it even on something as simple as the boot topping which is why by the time I get to the point that you are at with this I have resorted to a hairy stick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smyfe Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Chewbacca said: That is super-impressive masking. I take my hat off to you sir. Only wish I could get masking to work like that - I end up with bleed through no matter how I do it even on something as simple as the boot topping which is why by the time I get to the point that you are at with this I have resorted to a hairy stick. Hi, I can accept no praise for the masking of the upper works as I used the Flyhawk mask set, which I always use if I can get my hands on them. They are simple to use and I just go over them with tips of my tweezers once down. I did have to modify this set to paint the Semtex but it wasn't too much trouble. Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Excellent work so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smyfe Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 Hi, just a bit of progress today, decks are on and the bridge has been put together. Thank heaven for Optivisors. Progress may be a little slower than I had hoped due to sweat running into my eyes and dripping on my work, I'm a big bloke that doesn't cope to well in this heat 😓 I may try to do some more after it cools down later. On a plus note, my son has been camping and when we went to put the gear away in the garage (away from the house), I found a whole box of 1/700 ships I had forgotten about, Trumpeter 1943 Richelieu with deck and etch came back with me as I cannot ever remember buying it. Mick 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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