klubman01 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 So sorry to see this happen to you. I agree with Keith in that stuff was sign written, or were vinyl stickers. Hope you get it sorted. Trevor PS I don't do clearcoat over decals on any of my models. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anteater Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Oh no, it was all going so well! If you think you can salvage it that would be seriously impressive, but I think the path of least resistance must be to buy another decal sheet and strip it back to start again... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnick Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 Thanks for the comments and advice all. Much appreciated. Another layer of clear added and decal sanded back and smooth With some super thin layers of paint it might you never know just be possible... Nick 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiny Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 You beat me to it, but I was going to say that your summary of the process looked right. I was going to clarify too that you're probably best off using a 3000/4000 grit sanding medium like you would for flatting back orange peel, but it looks as though you used something similar there. Just to be clear, for the best end result you would need to get a new set of decals, and probably end up going right back to a bare plastic body. But you should still be able to get a decent result touching up the decal (this is where a 10/0 brush and magnifying headset will really come in handy). The white will be the hardest to get an exact colour match, but you should be able to get reasonably close. For the black, it's unlike that any difference in colour will be visible. After you've touched up the paint (and tested the touch up with the clear for a reaction) add a couple of mist coats then go with the heavier wet coats. The existing clear will help to protect the decal to quite a degree so you should run less risk of further damage than when you first painted it. Good luck, you've done the scary bit so it should get better from here. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnick Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Spiny said: going right back to a bare plastic body To be quite honest it would be nice if I didn't have to do that on a model! 😥. Yes I know get the violins out! 😄 If I can get a decent result by touching up the decals then I'll settle for decent! Nick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six97s Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Ouch. 😑 I have to agree with the other comments - I'd cut my losses and buy some replacement decals, or just paint it plain red. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klubman01 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Fnick said: Thanks for the comments and advice all. Much appreciated. Another layer of clear added and decal sanded back and smooth With some super thin layers of paint it might you never know just be possible... Nick Good luck. Hope it works out OK for you. Trevor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnick Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 Evening all Did a quick trial of painting the white scratches. I think even if I can get a matching white (which is going to be very difficult as the decal is slightly translucent and the red is showing through) the cracks will still be visible... I've ordered some new decals. I'll sand all of them down. Although I'm tempted to have another go and putting the clear over the decals think I might put the clear on first, sand and polish and then put the decals on top... Need to sleep on it. Nick 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klubman01 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 On 29/07/2021 at 22:15, Fnick said: I might put the clear on first, sand and polish and then put the decals on top... That would be my choice. Trevior 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnick Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 hours ago, klubman01 said: That would be my choice Going to be mine too! Those decals looked pretty good straight on the paint so I'm hoping they won't look too bad on a polished clear coat. Nick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef N. Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Were they Cartograf decals Nick as the same thing happened to me on a bike? Cartograf crinkled and will need redoing, while Hobby Design worked perfectly. Odd and got me trying to figure out what to do with the rest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnick Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 Hi Stef they came from a company called lemansdecals.com (ordered off a certain auction website!). Give that some parts of the decals seemed to be ok suggests the first mist coat was too heavy. If I was to start from scratch I would do a few very light mist coats before going onto wetter coats. Not saying that would necessarily work though! 🙂 but that is what I would try. Nick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef N. Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Thanks Nick.👍 That seems what may have gone wrong as I painted with a lack of finesse this morning and it went on quite heavy. Next batch will be done on with a light touch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy J Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Hi Nick sorry to see you had issues with the clear coat over the decals. Out of interest many of my car builds have been clear coated and then I've applied the decals on top of the clear. Granted the decals don't have the protection of a clear coat but as my finished builds go into a display case I don't see any problem. Tbh I don't think you would be able to see the difference in any of my builds whatever process I've used and because the clear leaves a nice gloss finish the decals lay down perfectly. Hope this makes sense mate 🤔👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnick Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share Posted August 2, 2021 Cheers Andy yes it does. Nick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnick Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 Evening all P4 finally clear coated! I'll let that cure for a few days. Despite decals mishap still pleased with how it's looking... Now that all the spraying is done on this I'm back on the Cadillac (should probably start a build log for that one...) for its clear coating (I'm going through cans of TS-13 like there's no tomorrow! 😄) Thanks for looking, Nick 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiny Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Excellent finish you have there. And the decals don't look too bad - not sure whether that's a trick of the camera or whether they really don't look bad unless you go into ultra-close up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnick Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 Trick of the camera!😄 The front one also has had some white paint in the cracks so it looks better that in actually is. Two others are not too bad but will still need sanding down. Replacements are on their way. Nick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Lovely shine Nick!! Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klubman01 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Great recovery job! Trevor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Very much a thread of ups & downs. In spite of your hassles, I just like the look of what you've got so far, maybe why I went out & bought one of these off Hobbysearch 1999.co.jp, though I'll likely want to convert mine to the Spyder that Chris Amon & Lorenzo Bandini won the Daytona 24 hours with in 1967. I'll pay more attention to this now. Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnick Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 Thank you all for the comments and reactions! As always much appreciated. Keeps me plodding along 🙂 Nick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstaff Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 That's a great recovery Nick, I know that up close you will always see any imperfections yourself as everyone is always more critical of their own builds than anyone else I'd be more than happy with that finish if it was one of mine, well done Love the curves and overall shape of cars from this period Ian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesa Jussila Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Well saved and this is really beautiful racing Ferrari. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadog Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Something I found out, having lost the dashboard part...duh. While making a new one from scratch I found some good interior shots and realized that the main instrument nacelle has 3 instruments house in it, plus there's a single a bit over to the left side of the cluster. There's some good info here. At this point I'm not sure where I'm going to find dials for them :🤔. Hoping I can get close to the finish you've got on the bodywork! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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