28ZComeback Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Hello all, I would like to use the Airfix 1/48 Canadair Sabre IV for an ex-RAF Yugoslav machine. Can anyone comment on the type of wing utilized by Yugoslav machines (and whether the current Airfix offering is sufficient for a Yugoslav machine)? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Edmundson Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) the Yugo Sabres were equipped with the 6-3 hard edge wing. Yes, the Airfix kit is suitable for a Yugoslav Mk4. Cheers, Tony EDIT; the Yugoslavian Mk4 Sabres were all put through an inspection process and brought up to the standard of F-86E(M) after RAF service. If the 6-3 wing mod was not done in RAF service it was retrofitted at that time. My 1/72 Airfix kit; Edited July 5, 2021 by Tony Edmundson 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyJammedKenny! Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Beautiful Saber, and thanks so much for the information, which will come in handy when I do mine in YuAF colors, albeit in 1/72. Will a "plain Jane" F-86E work, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Edmundson Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 11 hours ago, TheyJammedKenny! said: Beautiful Saber, and thanks so much for the information, which will come in handy when I do mine in YuAF colors, albeit in 1/72. Will a "plain Jane" F-86E work, too? no manufacturer makes a proper F-86E so; no All you need is a F-86F with the 6-3 hard edge wing, then a few mods to backdate it to the proper vent/scoops configuration of the Sabre Mk4. What some model companies call a F-86E, usually is something else ( the Academy 1/72 F-86E is actually a Canadair Sabre 6). Cheers, Tony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 On 7/5/2021 at 5:58 AM, Tony Edmundson said: My 1/72 Airfix kit; Lovely job there Tony! Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28ZComeback Posted July 6, 2021 Author Share Posted July 6, 2021 Is the Hasegawa 1/48 F-86 a proper “E”.? I have seen it described as having elements of both. Sorry to open any cans of worms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 2 hours ago, 28ZComeback said: Is the Hasegawa 1/48 F-86 a proper “E”.? I have seen it described as having elements of both. Sorry to open any cans of worms. Nope: as Tony says above, no kit is. The new Airfix kit is closest to do a late F-86E, but not an F-86E-1 or E-5. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 What is an E-1 or E-5? It gets more difficult the deeper you dig! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 F-86E-1 and -5 (serial numbers beginning with '0') were kind of a transition between F-86A and F-86F. They have vee-screens, flush wingtip lights, mid-fuselage vents and the flush dorsal vent (as F-86A), but incorporate the all-flying tail and aerodynamic fairings of the F-86F. The F-86E-10 and onwards had the flat windshield of the F-86F but retained the mid-fuselage and flush dorsal vent panels. Some F-86E-15s were converted to F-86Fs, but it was not a simple job. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyJammedKenny! Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Ok, I'll look at the book I have, JETS, "Jet aircraft of Western origin in Yugoslav service," and scrutinize the photos therein. It's written in Serbo-Croatian, but you don't need the language because, for all the words, it offers surprisingly little of value aside from the photos and color side-views! It's like reading a series of squadron histories put together, without any references to tactics, techniques, procedures, or doctrine--which are of greater interest to me personally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 I'd have to step in to defend JETS here: at the time it was published, it was the best there was. And for me it nicely covered procurement, entry into service, mods and final withdrawal of a number of types. I don't look to monographs to detail tactics and procedures. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetasker Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Has anyone done a set of decals for the yellow Yugoslav machine? I quite fancy having a bash at that myself with the new Airfix kit. Lovely modelling by the way @Tony Edmundson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 45 minutes ago, petetasker said: Had anyone done a set of decals for the yellow Yugoslav machine? I quite fancy having a bash at that myself with the new Airfix kit. Lovely modelling by the way @Tony Edmundson Lift Here! do a number, IIRC the Akro Grupa scheme too, in various scales. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetasker Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Sabrejet said: Lift Here! do a number, IIRC the Akro Grupa scheme too, in various scales. Cheers mate found a set on Ebay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 8 hours ago, petetasker said: Has anyone done a set of decals for the yellow Yugoslav machine? I quite fancy having a bash at that myself with the new Airfix kit. Lovely modelling by the way @Tony Edmundson I think I have a spare set somewhere if you want them? I did mine as a plain Jane 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetasker Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Cheers Julian. That’s very kind but I found a set on flea bay all the way from Serbia. Nice model by the way. Never fancied doing a ‘foreign’ Sabre before ie non RAF but that yellow and blue Yugoslav scheme is just lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Edmundson Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 On 7/11/2021 at 12:29 AM, petetasker said: Has anyone done a set of decals for the yellow Yugoslav machine? I quite fancy having a bash at that myself with the new Airfix kit. Lovely modelling by the way @Tony Edmundson Mine are Cutting Edge(OOP) and some Airfix kit decals. cheers, Tony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 14/07/2021 at 00:21, Tony Edmundson said: Mine are Cutting Edge(OOP) and some Airfix kit decals. cheers, Tony Yes I have that sheet in 1/72 and 1/48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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